yup thats them except the ones i was talking about were the american version called leg pegz but they dont make them for gassers i checked there home page legpegs.com . dont know if theyd work anyway but would be very curious to here from someone who has tried them

i dont so much get arm pump rather my hand or hands going to sleep:mad:

are these the 714 (holes) or 737 (wavy) rally grips y'all are talking about?

Sounds like you got a bad case of Carpel tunnel.

A Jersey Shores thing.

When your feet move around on the pegs its harder to grip the bike with your knees so you hang on harder with youre hand and you get arm pump. Its easy to say just hang on with youre legs more but you can't do that effectively without your feet in the correct spot. So the most imprtant part is to have those feet and ankles locked right in hard up against the frame. Thats step 1 and will allow you to hold on with youre legs better and reduce your reliance on youre arms and hands to hold on tight hence reduce arm pump. Unfortunately as we ride hard our feet move on the pegs over time and the whole problem starts over again and arm pump is the way we find out that our feet have move and were not holding on with our legs. Its usually too late to find out then so step 2. is , evey time you have 5 seconds for a relax, make it part of your routine to re lock your feet back into the frame and start the correct process happening. Once again, every time you relax make the feet lock PART OF THE ROUTINE. It works.