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singletracker 08-05-2018 12:46 PM

2011 vs Ranger
 
I'm planning to get back on the bike after a 5 year hiatus. Former racer 40A-40B speed when I quit riding. I don't see myself racing again, but I would like to hit some trails at a moderate pace to maintain my sanity. A guy needs a stress reliever from time to time!

I'm looking at the new Ranger, but I'm not sure there is a big enough advantage over my 2011 xc250 kicker only with modified Marzocci forks and modified cylinder head. The 2011 is set up pretty well for HS and enduro racing. I'm short and prefer a shorter seat height for technical trail riding. Seat height is listed as the same for both bikes, 940mm. The electric start would be nice since I'm not worried about saving the extra weight any more, and my knees aren't getting any younger.

I haven't rode anything newer than 2011 so I don't know if there is a significant difference in vibrations, handling or anything that makes the newer bikes significantly better.

I realize the Ranger isn't available yet, but I would appreciate any relevant insight.

memphis2857 08-05-2018 04:13 PM

Your 2011 is a great bike, arguably the best year ever until 2018. The new generation GG is not even comparable to anything they made in the past. I imagine the ranger is going to be a trail riders delight


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CDN Rick 08-05-2018 07:36 PM

I doubt anyone here has ridden the Ranger yet. (Unless we have a magazine tester in our midst.) So it?s hard to say for sure. But if the ?18 Enduro bikes are any indication of what to expect from the coming line of GasGas machines I?d expect to be impressed with the Ranger. Since the motor is the same basic power plant as the current EC/XC with mods for torque I?d guess it will have nearly no vibrations off idle. Beyond that I can?t really give any insights. The specs do make it look like a perfect trail riding bike for non-racers though.

Elvis74 08-06-2018 02:08 AM

If you like the concept of the KTM Freeride or Beta Xtrainer, I would wait for the ranger. When I see the technical specs it looks like the ranger has the best suspension and components.


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gasser 08-06-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis74 (Post 184797)
If you like the concept of the KTM Freeride or Beta Xtrainer, I would wait for the ranger. When I see the technical specs it looks like the ranger has the best suspension and components.


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The Freeride should not be mentioned in the same breath as a ranger or a xtrainer. The freeride motor will not rev out forcing constant shifting and the bike is overly tall for it's very short wheelbase which makes the bike unstable to ride at any decent pace. I have ridden my friends freeride on the trail and I wouldn't trade my 8 year old gasser for a brand new freeride.

Doc Brown 08-06-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis74 (Post 184797)
When I see the technical specs it looks like the ranger has the best suspension and components.

Just out of interest why do you assume the Rangers suspension is best, which means its better than the suspension of the other GG models?

BTW I think we know each other from a German forum or its just by chance that soemone there has the same nick as you...

Zman 08-06-2018 04:34 PM

You may want to consider a GG125 with a 144 big bore kit. It will save you 20 to 30lbs.

singletracker 08-06-2018 05:18 PM

I'm with Elvis on the suspension. From what I've read it seems as though the suspension is somewhere in between an EC and an x-trainer. I expect it will be a more mild mannered EC with a step down in suspension, lower seat height and a pleasure to ride at a fast trail pace or slow race-pace unless modified.

singletracker 08-06-2018 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zman (Post 184830)
You may want to consider a GG125 with a 144 big bore kit. It will save you 20 to 30lbs.

There was a time when that sounded pretty appealing, but I don't want to use the clutch that much these days. I feel like a larger bore or 4 stroke is more versatile for the type of riding I want to do.

Elvis74 08-07-2018 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Brown (Post 184820)
Just out of interest why do you assume the Rangers suspension is best, which means its better than the suspension of the other GG models?



BTW I think we know each other from a German forum or its just by chance that soemone there has the same nick as you...



I means the best from these three bikes, Freeride, Xtrainer and ranger.
Here in Germany a lot of people have the Freeride and the Xtrainer and the dir they do is changing the suspension and the breaks to the same like the EXC or RR.
I like the 46mm KYB’s. They work pretty good.
I would never say that a standard suspension can be better than the 48 KYB SSS.



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