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chunkysoup 12-14-2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakobi (Post 180490)
The demo I saw would crank over really strong. No issues with the starter motor engaging, however the bike would simply not fire. Throwing out the kick starter and giving it a boot it would fire straight up.

Good to know, thank you. Im sure if I toss in a new Shorai battery, my starting will be a little more consistent.

papa_j 12-16-2017 10:50 AM

What about that technical bulletin noted on the other thread? Upgrading the gauge of the wires.

Gasser Nate 12-19-2017 03:30 AM

I have been working on Gassers in Australia since about '02. I love the bikes to death and this 2018 update/revamp is so good I went out and bought one!
One test ride and I was hooked. Kyb's and that grunty 300 motor :D

On the starter issue, from what I have seen Is like the Mark from GG has said it is not all bikes that are affected. I have seen the 'spin all day long but not start' fault (as if no spark) and the usual effects all two stroke starter motor 'stall when the battery/motor seems to struggle to get past tdc.' This one was simply overcome by another stab of the starter button.
From what I have seen is the main battery earth doesn't go to the starter motor like previous gassy's so adding a earth strap is one thing owners could do to eliminate voltage drop. And the bike that previously had the fault had it's cdi swapped between a few others and since then never failed to start.. so maybe just a dirty cdi plug. Also worth a try.
I am sure these things will be/should be checked by your dealers but worth mentioning.

Adrian200xc 01-27-2018 12:09 AM

I missed all the drama! I?ve been too busy riding this amazing bike. I?m having the starting problem as well but I haven?t taken it to the dealer because I can?t stop riding it! This hasn?t bothered me much, especially after I rode with a friend and his battery died on his new beta. It doesn?t have a kicker! 🤦*♂️

Booki 02-24-2019 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gasser Nate (Post 180535)
I have been working on Gassers in Australia since about '02. I love the bikes to death and this 2018 update/revamp is so good I went out and bought one!
One test ride and I was hooked. Kyb's and that grunty 300 motor :D

On the starter issue, from what I have seen Is like the Mark from GG has said it is not all bikes that are affected. I have seen the 'spin all day long but not start' fault (as if no spark) and the usual effects all two stroke starter motor 'stall when the battery/motor seems to struggle to get past tdc.' This one was simply overcome by another stab of the starter button.
From what I have seen is the main battery earth doesn't go to the starter motor like previous gassy's so adding a earth strap is one thing owners could do to eliminate voltage drop. And the bike that previously had the fault had it's cdi swapped between a few others and since then never failed to start.. so maybe just a dirty cdi plug. Also worth a try.
I am sure these things will be/should be checked by your dealers but worth mentioning.


Hey Nate,

I just bought mine - super stoked with it!
Quite easy to ride too for a 300 2t!

I am having issues with my electric start though - it will spin the motor no worries but won't start it. Sometimes it gets "hung up" but pressing the button again lets it spin up.

It will not start in gear with the clutch in, seems to start in neutral though

Gasser Nate 02-24-2019 02:44 AM

What model is it? 2018 or 2019? How many hours on it so far?
Have you tried any of the listed fixes yet?

Booki 02-24-2019 02:46 AM

I only picked it up today. Really clean low hour bike. Has done 6 hours.

Have not seen any fix's in the forums yet. Still trying to figure out everything.

Do you have a link to the fixes ?

I think the battery ground was suspect from some reading earlier?

Also do they have a steering lock key? Mine didn't come with one and I couldn't see it.

I have so many other questions about it too though

SS109 02-25-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Booki (Post 188730)
Do you have a link to the fixes ?

No links but the fixes that have been brought up...
1. Stronger battery
2. Larger ground cable
3. Having CDI re-mapped
4. Cleaning all ground points between battery and starter
5. Replacing the bearings in the starter mechanism
6. Replacing the starter itself

Booki 02-25-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS109 (Post 188753)
No links but the fixes that have been brought up...
1. Stronger battery
2. Larger ground cable
3. Having CDI re-mapped
4. Cleaning all ground points between battery and starter
5. Replacing the bearings in the starter mechanism
6. Replacing the starter itself

Least the first 4 items seem straight forward.
How do you remap the CDI? Are dealers the only one who can do it?

Wypipo 02-25-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS109 (Post 188753)
No links but the fixes that have been brought up...
1. Stronger battery
2. Larger ground cable
3. Having CDI re-mapped
4. Cleaning all ground points between battery and starter
5. Replacing the bearings in the starter mechanism
6. Replacing the starter itself


Are there any trouble shooting methods to determine if it?s the starter itself? I have done the first 4 and have good voltage everywhere


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