To confirm what Boyscout said. At Concho enduro I got 3rd place in open B but because the overall B winner came from my class I ended up getting 2nd place. It is a little confusing. I am not sure how many series do it this way.

First off, the fact that Martin is on Yamaha, is pure coincidence. I'm a GasGas guy and a Yamaha guy. I wish GasGas would dominate the off road world. I've owned one, and can't wait to own another. I also wish I could have found a late model GasGas for $1800 like I did my YZ. I know exactly what you were doing when you made your post. GasGas was indeed well represented. I saw quite a few at the race and Hayden has been doing a great job on the GasGas.

2nd, I completely understand and have understood for years this award system of removing the Overall winners and award 1st place to the 2nd place finisher. I know all about it. I thought you knew where I was going with this when I asked "who got first place points". In fact, I have a "1st Place B-Vet" trophy that I received in 2006 for finishing 2nd, and the real winner happen to Overall B that day, so they gave the 1st place trophy to me. I also know that everytime I look at it, I didn't earn it, b/c in "reality" I finished 2nd.

3rd, I'm not trying to piss you off. I've been laughing while typing the whole time. It isn't your fault that they choose to do this goofy stuff. The way you presented it though, implied that Hayden won AA. Which is NOT accurate no matter which way you or TSCEC slices it. I have nothing against Hayden, nor any special feelings for Martin. The fact is that they are both AA, and one of them beat the other, so they can give out trophies to everyone that entered and that will not change the fact that Mr. Howell won the AA class that day and Mr. Franklin finished 2nd.

Again, this is splitting hairs and I don't want to create enemies for no reason. I have no ill will towards you Boyscout and I don't care to bicker over this goofy award system. I prefer to make friends. Just the way you posted it, didn't represent the actual outcome of the AA class for the 2011 Caney Creek Enduro.

With that, I'm done with the public bickering. If you wish to continue this, pm me. I hope you don't let this hinder any future encounters with me.

Just for the record, apparently Martin was on a Honda when he won Caney Creek. Results that listed Yamaha was wrong.