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barbotte 06-11-2018 05:30 PM

water pump faulty desing
 
well i just blow my engine again!! 22 hr after a full rebuild (yes 22hr),,, very not happy with the water pump impeller design ,,, who in the right mind (engineering ) make plastic impeller in a hot engine? not sure if they fix that but my 2014 ec 300 came with plastic and the replacement one too ... the funny stories is that when i finish my last rebuild ,i order the aluminum one ,,i just got it in the mail today ... 1 day too late as it blow yesterday 20 mile in the wood ... it should be in the sticky ,,,, if you buy a gas gas ,,first thing is get rid of the plastic impeller ....
my 2 cent frustration
cheer
Henri

(F5) 06-11-2018 08:35 PM

Soooo.
Is there more at play here? A 2 stroke would ideally run a 50degC but with limited rad size and slow speed - more likely 70. Some mud bogs walking speed say 80 maybe 90.

Plastic should cope with that easy enough. Did it fail itself? Or were you losing water?

On top of that air-cooled bikes were run well over 100.

I've always run the ally one, just because but. . .

cbutler 06-11-2018 09:11 PM

My 02 EC 200 and 03 MC250 are stock except jetting and have had no problem with the water pump. My 01 TXT 280 water pump seal leaked about 2 years ago.

SS109 06-12-2018 02:45 AM

22hrs? Are you running it way too lean?

Gasser Nate 06-12-2018 04:20 AM

Nothing wrong with the plastic one, my old 04 had over 20,000k?s on it and it never failed. Something else at play here.

swazi_matt 06-12-2018 04:35 AM

DO a search on here. There were big discussions on the plastic impeller touching the cover. Being plastic it should be ‘self clearing’ lol

(F5) 06-12-2018 04:36 AM

And dude please don't think we're having a go at you kicking you while you're down. We just want to not have it happen a 3rd time.

Anders 06-12-2018 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbotte (Post 183724)
well i just blow my engine again!! 22 hr after a full rebuild (yes 22hr)
Henri

What exactly happened? What parts are destroyed?

Neil E. 06-12-2018 11:34 AM

Don't just install the aluminum impeller without checking clearances; it's a very close fit to the housing. You may need to double up on the gaskets.

High engine temperatures take out the head orings quickly. Shutting down at the first hint of trouble is your best bet. I'd say the jetting would have to be lean for the conditions unless you were badly stuck and had no air flow past the radiators.

Moto7man 06-12-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil E. (Post 183746)
Don't just install the aluminum impeller without checking clearances; it's a very close fit to the housing. You may need to double up on the gaskets.

High engine temperatures take out the head orings quickly. Shutting down at the first hint of trouble is your best bet. I'd say the jetting would have to be lean for the conditions unless you were badly stuck and had no air flow past the radiators.

There was a problem with the impeller clearing the cover on some of the 2010 and 2011s.

Here is the original thread. There is a lot of information on this thread and post 19 includes photos of my plastic impeller and the install of my 2t metal impeller.

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/sho...=14764&page=14

Here is the 2 T racing kit. I checked the clearance on my 2011 and it didn't have a problem and it never overheated but I installed this kit anyway in 2013. I have never had a problem with the new 2t metal impeller.
http://2tracing.it/ricambi-gas-gas/m...iorata-ec-300/


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