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kendunn 10-31-2010 09:31 PM

Lets clear up clutch crossover
 
Lots of conflicting info on here as to what will and won't work on the GG as far as clutch replacement. Mine is starting to slip and was looking at brands/crossover options. Why don't you post what you are running and how it work and any mods you had to do. This is very interesting, but adds to the confusion-
http://www.barnettclutches.com/searc...n=301-48-10001

From what I have read looks like the best bet is to get the 3mm plates (GG is 2.7mm) with a thinner thrust washer (1.5mm, supposedly one off a Kawasaki will work, would someone post the exact model?) to make up the difference as the 2.7mm aftermarket are prone to breaking. How is this working out for folks?

iancp5 11-01-2010 02:49 AM

Is it that hard to get GG plates in parts of the world? In the UK I just pick up the phone and any GG dealer has them.

stainlesscycle 11-01-2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kendunn (Post 50735)
From what I have read looks like the best bet is to get the 3mm plates (GG is 2.7mm) with a thinner thrust washer (1.5mm, supposedly one off a Kawasaki will work, would someone post the exact model?) to make up the difference as the 2.7mm aftermarket are prone to breaking. How is this working out for folks?

this is what i did. i milled the inner thrust washer to 1.5, there is a kawasaki one, i researched it by googling the size of the thrust you need - can't seem to find it now. 22.1x42x1.5 is basically what you want. . switched to cr250 plates and frictions for about $50.00. i also switched to 0w-50 amsoil. no drag, no broken plates, easier to find neutral.....
when you're in there, check the rivets for the cush drive on basket... i switched to bolts and have had no problems.

kendunn 11-01-2010 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by iancp5 (Post 50743)
Is it that hard to get GG plates in parts of the world? In the UK I just pick up the phone and any GG dealer has them.


Its a whole lot easier to turn loose of $50 for an aftermarket than $325 for an OEM kit.

kendunn 11-01-2010 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by stainlesscycle (Post 50745)
this is what i did. i milled the inner thrust washer to 1.5, there is a kawasaki one, i researched it by googling the size of the thrust you need - can't seem to find it now. 22.1x42x1.5 is basically what you want. . switched to cr250 plates and frictions for about $50.00. i also switched to 0w-50 amsoil. no drag, no broken plates, easier to find neutral.....
when you're in there, check the rivets for the cush drive on basket... i switched to bolts and have had no problems.

If I remember right you went with the Tusk steel and fiber from Rocky Mountain, right? What year CR's fit?

iancp5 11-01-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kendunn (Post 50747)
Its a whole lot easier to turn loose of $50 for an aftermarket than $325 for an OEM kit.

Luckily here the GG ones are the same as Honda etc in cost and certainly no where near $325 US, more like GBP 50 which is maybe $75

Qui-gon 11-01-2010 10:06 AM

Are you sure they are only 50 quid? If so I will get a set while I am back here! I cant believe something is actually cheaper in the uk!

stainlesscycle 11-01-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kendunn (Post 50748)
If I remember right you went with the Tusk steel and fiber from Rocky Mountain, right? What year CR's fit?

i believe 94 to 02 and maybe newer fit, but i ordered 1997...
it was $44.99 for the whole deal.

kendunn 11-01-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stainlesscycle (Post 50756)
i believe 94 to 02 and maybe newer fit, but i ordered 1997...
it was $44.99 for the whole deal.

Looks like they are the same parts but different quantities, pre 90 only used 7 friction plates and 90 up used 8 (which is what we need). There is a difference in metal plates on 97 up, it looks like it has 2 different type of plates in the stack, two steel and 5 aluminum. Not sure why.

I looked back at one of your earlier posts and you had a Suzuki part listed for the washer, but it seemed like the wrong one on the fiche. You had it listed as a 08211-22423 but looks like on the diagram a 09180-22045 is a closer match, is this correct? Can be seen at
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model...emblies/115472

stainlesscycle 11-01-2010 01:24 PM

that washer 09180-22045 is 22.1x45x? 45mm o.d. is probably fine, but i can't find the thickness. if someone has a local friendly suzuki shop, you could probably stop by and measure it....

can't remember how i looked up that thrust washer...

can you direct me to the old thread (can't seem to find it...) maybe it will refresh my memory.


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