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mxdj2003 10-20-2008 05:49 AM

roller bearing rear brake pedal
 
i was able to machine out my rear brake pedal to accept 2 roller bearings doing away with the sloppy bronze bushing . i was wondering if anybody would be into this mod i was thinking of offering a '' do it yourself kit '' if theres enough intrest , it would include the bearings spacers and drill bit to convert your brake pedal .

Skidad 10-20-2008 08:46 AM

I would. Nice little winter project.

My KTM is like this and it's great. How about using a double row double sealed bearing instead of 2 bearings?

PEB 10-20-2008 10:09 AM

Count me in please

blitz11 10-20-2008 11:21 AM

Count me in. Thanks.

blitz

GMP 10-20-2008 12:26 PM

Do you run work in a machine shop? If so we should talk. Several years ago, I designed a new pedal post and Les made up a prototype for me to try. Large separate frame mount (no through bolt) and grease fitting. Well, its still good and on my '07. Les felt it would be too expensive considering the volume of potential sales at the time. Maybe time to think about it again. I would however ask Les if he is interested first as he did spend his time on the one prototype.

Skidad,

The KTM pedal has a much larger dia "hub" area. The ball bearings you are thinking of will not work. I suspect mxdj is using needle bearings.

fury1 10-20-2008 02:04 PM

count me in for three!! I just replaced the entire assembly,and its still sloppy!

Skidad 10-20-2008 02:07 PM

Glen,

Can you post a picture of your brake post setup?

mxdj2003 10-20-2008 03:14 PM

i did take some pics but they where to big to post on here , when my girlfriend gets home ill get her to crop it so i can post it.

mxdj2003 10-20-2008 06:04 PM

here is picture of brake lever with the bearing in it

mxdj2003 10-20-2008 07:08 PM

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heres the brake pedal

mxdj2003 10-20-2008 07:17 PM

i was also able to source out some metric articulating joints they are similar to what a KTM use to connect the master cylinder to the brake pedal ,that combined with the roller bearing pedal would would eliminate all the slop in the rear brake. ill take some pics with it on the bike when the articulating joints get here

gasgasman 10-20-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxdj2003 (Post 21926)
heres the brake pedal


Looks like there might be some weak spots in the pedal assembly from the machining to fit the roller bearings.
If you use the needle type bearing there will be more meat around the bearing.

GMP 10-20-2008 08:57 PM

I agree with Girard. I thought about this awhile ago and abandoned it for this reason. What makes the KTM design nice is the sealed bearings stay in good shape and the pedal pivot does not get sloppy. What does wear are the heim joints though.

The stock GG pedal has little machining on the sides and the o-rings do not seal well. I think you would be better off with a tighter fitting bushing or needle bearing, better sealing, and greasable pivot. Another thing to consider is that a brake pedal is a vulnerable and somewhat consumable part. You don't want to put too much custom work into something you may snap off at any time.

gasgasman 10-20-2008 09:03 PM

Check out this beauty.

http://www.trialendurodirect.com/ima...billet%20foot%

http://www.trialendurodirect.com/pro...lever_509.html

Rick 10-20-2008 09:42 PM

Looks pretty close to the Hammer head brake pedal

SpeedyManiac 10-24-2008 01:44 PM

That's the Mecasystem brake pedal. A bunch of Slovakians had those brake pedals (and some other mecasystem parts) on their ISDE bikes. Billy and I were both drooling a little over those brake pedals. Someone (ahem, Steve and Mark) should think about importing those. I'd be in for 1 or 2.

MattR 10-24-2008 06:17 PM

Meca Systems brake pedal
 
http://www.mecasystem.fr/produit-614...is-argent.html

http://www.mecasystem.fr/mod_turbole.../view8543.jpeg

widebear 10-28-2008 10:22 AM

What about using a spherical bearing like the ones used in early 90's honda's, lower shock mount? it should be close to correct in size and offer some deflection for the pushrod yoke as well and could be used in conjuntion with a stud mount like Glenn mentioned.

blitz11 10-28-2008 11:51 AM

The mecasystem brake pedal is pornographic. WOW. How about hammerhead making one of those? Their shifter rocks the house (and my size 14 feet!). I'd be all over that bad boy. krikes.

Skidad 10-28-2008 01:03 PM

Group buy??

That thing is sweeeeet

GMP 10-29-2008 06:59 AM

It appears to be a two piece unit, which is nice if you can get the pedal arm as a replacement part for less $ than the complete assembly. I wonder if the pivot section is steel.

I also make a simple mod that eliminates the wear issue with the hole for the master cyl pin. I fill the hole, redrill and tap for M6. An M6 bolt and two steel weldnuts mounted flange out capture and provide a steel surface to slide within the clevis, eliminating the steel on aluminum wear. On the older bikes with the frame mounted pedal height adjustment this is especially nice because you can cut the bottom out of the clevis (forming a slot) and now you have a one bolt eaiser to R&R brake pedal.

I've thought about the brake pedal issue for awhile, and if your going to use a heim (spherical) joint for the master cyl connection, you need to modify the Nissin master cyl piston pin for more freeplay like the Brembo on the KTM, as the clevis slot provides this.

Next week I'll have a lot more free time and catch up on my photo gallery so you can see this.

mxdj2003 10-29-2008 04:02 PM

im actually working on a new pedal with the bearings in it , i should have one built this weekend it will be a two piece unit like the one pictured in this post, it wont have an alumnim tip i was planning on using a KTM pedal tip as they are cheap and it is easier to buy then machine one .

spondon9 11-21-2008 07:13 AM

KX brake pedal
 
Hi Peeps,
any one know much about the KX brake pedal to fit a EC 250 07?

Berkyboy 12-16-2008 05:28 PM

The mecasystem brake pedal is now in stock and ready to ship.

$89.95 at current Euro values.

Dealer pricing available.

We also have the mecasystem skid plate in stock for 05 and newer (200/250/300) 2-strokes...$129.95.

Rick 12-16-2008 07:42 PM

Will the Meca System pedal fit my 99 EC200?

Berkyboy 12-16-2008 09:29 PM

Yes, the packaging says it will fit!!


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