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Rick 05-18-2015 08:04 PM

Just Like Old Times
 
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I've been recovering from a little racing incident from April...Moto related so I been feeling pretty good and thought it would be fun to get out and burn a little premix in the EC200. Meet a few of my bleeding Orange buddies out at Hollister Hill OHV for a ride this past weekend.

The trusty EC 200 hasn't changed much in the past decade so nothing new to report other than I've had re-springed the forks and shock, revalved the forks and full service on the shock. Nothing special on the fork revalve I had it set up for more aggressive riding. I have only rode it once and started out with base numbers.

Yesterday made made several clicker changes on the forks and right now I'm pretty happy with the performance considering their 43mm WP's.

One thing that continues to amaze me is just how much low to mid power the 200 has! Seemed like the rougher the trail was the more that motor shines! Very little clutch input, just twist the throttle and go! Short shifting the 200 out of a turn with deep acceleration bumps and it just pulls so effortlessly! I really fell back in love with my first love all over again!

My riding partners were on 01 KTM 200's EXC models. One of the bikes is modded pretty heavy, pretty much a 200SX top end, carb, pipe, and black box on the 01 bottom end, Munn Racing did his motor.... It's a rocket! That's the 478m bike. The other KToom is pretty much stock except for some upgraded 06 suspension.

This ride report is nothing new other than I've reacquainted myself with an old friend! In our group was a A Vet CC racer, B Super Senior and. C Senior CC racer, so we had a good mix of speed!

I'm really looking forward to getting more seat time back on the EC!

Rick 05-18-2015 08:27 PM

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Here's another from the 200 fleet!
If Incould just figure out how to upload more from this I Phone!

liv2day 05-19-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 152736)
One thing that continues to amaze me is just how much low to mid power the 200 has! Seemed like the rougher the trail was the more that motor shines! Very little clutch input, just twist the throttle and go! Short shifting the 200 out of a turn with deep acceleration bumps and it just pulls so effortlessly! I really fell back in love with my first love all over again!

That's awesome Rick :cool: :cool:

She looks really good in that line-up; and so cool to have jumped back on her after a hiatus with a rekindle of that flame :D

I'm over due for a top end on my 200, need to get that knocked out so she's ready for next ~75 hours of ripping (or in my case, mostly plodding along...lol).

husley 05-19-2015 02:39 PM

Rick, what mods have you made to the motor (if any)

I picked up a low-time 09' 200.

Maybe later in the year we can ride on the other side of the sierras

J

Rick 05-19-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by husley (Post 152785)
Rick, what mods have you made to the motor (if any)

I picked up a low-time 09' 200.

Maybe later in the year we can ride on the other side of the sierras

J


Not much really, just squish, timing & pipe took a little bit out of the head pipe section, which has the same effect as a oversized PV cover.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, that the BEST PIPE for a 200 is the Messcio! I've tried a Doma & FMF and nothing can compare to the Messico.

I may be headed to Elkins Flat this weekend for a day ride with the 2honey! Let me know! We can link up!

Rick 05-19-2015 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=liv2day;152770]That's awesome Rick :cool: :cool:

She looks really good in that line-up; and so cool to have jumped back on her after a hiatus with a rekindle of that flame :D

I'm over due for a top end on my 200, need to get that knocked out so she's ready for next ~75 hours of ripping (or in my case, mostly plodding along...lol).[/QUOTE

Mine is due as well. In fact I need to do a big end rod bearing and crank bearings to. This may sound crazy, but the cases on this bike have never been split! Thats a crap load of time on that motor!!

liv2day 05-20-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by husley (Post 152785)
Rick, what mods have you made to the motor (if any)

husley - one of the best things I did for my 200 (and then subsequently my wife's 200) was sending the head to RB Designs. Made jetting a BREEZE and increased fuel efficiency a ton.

Other than that, the only other thing I've done is changed the gearing (running 12/52 as I'm slow and ride lots of tight stuff). Oh yeah, I also added the Flexx bars and my wrists/elbows/shoulders thank me every single time I ride :D.

No intention of hijacking your thread Rick, just wanted to throw that out there :D

Rick 05-20-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by liv2day (Post 152835)
husley - one of the best things I did for my 200 (and then subsequently my wife's 200) was sending the head to RB Designs. Made jetting a BREEZE and increased fuel efficiency a ton.

Other than that, the only other thing I've done is changed the gearing (running 12/52 as I'm slow and ride lots of tight stuff). Oh yeah, I also added the Flexx bars and my wrists/elbows/shoulders thank me every single time I ride :D.

No intention of hijacking your thread Rick, just wanted to throw that out there :D

Hijacking is cool when it helps answers questions.....

One of the other areas I've played with this different base gaskets / port timing. Yes, it a pain to tear it all down and swap out gaskets..... you never know results until you try.

I'm running a set of carbon reeds currently...from Boyesen...I'd have to check the pn#, but I think the GG and Honda CR250 use the same reed cage....so there is a ton of choices to choose from.

husley 05-20-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 152837)
Hijacking is cool when it helps answers questions.....

One of the other areas I've played with this different base gaskets / port timing. Yes, it a pain to tear it all down and swap out gaskets..... you never know results until you try.

I'm running a set of carbon reeds currently...from Boyesen...I'd have to check the pn#, but I think the GG and Honda CR250 use the same reed cage....so there is a ton of choices to choose from.

I hopefully get to ride it for the first time later this week. I suspect (although I could be wrong) I will want to move the powerband down low via squish and A PV Cover

RB Designs-this is a strong maybe.


Thanks to all

J

Rick 05-20-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by husley (Post 152843)
I hopefully get to ride it for the first time later this week. I suspect (although I could be wrong) I will want to move the powerband down low via squish and A PV Cover

RB Designs-this is a strong maybe.


Thanks to all

J

Keep in mind I have the 2k3, heavy flywheel, yours may be different, 2k2 and different black box? If I remember correctly, the thinest base gasket GG offers will alter the port timing, thus producing slightly more bottom to mid while loosing topend. So, you might want to check your base gaskets when doing your squish measurements.

husley 05-28-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 152792)
Not much really, just squish, timing & pipe took a little bit out of the head pipe section, which has the same effect as a oversized PV cover.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, that the BEST PIPE for a 200 is the Messcio! I've tried a Doma & FMF and nothing can compare to the Messico.

I may be headed to Elkins Flat this weekend for a day ride with the 2honey! Let me know! We can link up!

Missed this before: how did you go about removing a little from the head pipe section?

J

Rick 05-30-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by husley (Post 153215)
Missed this before: how did you go about removing a little from the head pipe section?

J

The pipe mod was already had been performed when I bought the bike. The previous owner explained what had been performed, about 1" was remove, all the pipe mounts were removed and relocated to adjust for the shorter head pipe.
Keep in mind this was performed on a Messico pipe, so FMF or any other pipe may be different.

husley 05-31-2015 10:16 AM

Got it, thanks!

Might play around with a flywheel weight as well...maybe?

roostafish 06-08-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by husley (Post 153343)
Got it, thanks!

Might play around with a flywheel weight as well...maybe?

A flywheel weight on that bike in particular is a nice mod. I had a '99, Rick's '99 to be exact, then following, a 2000. The 2000 wasn't around long, as I had a falling out with the dealer, but while I had it (a month or two) we put a gww on it. It made the bike easier to ride. I rarely count that short time with the machine because it isn't enough time to really gel with a bike. Following that I was on a 250, a 300, then back to a 250. All great steeds stock, but a few is always good.

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