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Gasser Nate 02-05-2021 12:50 AM

The are almost certainly 48mm Sachs.

kostisbezos 02-05-2021 05:22 AM

So bike probably has Sachs/Ohlins. Is that a "standard" version right? Flywheels on standard/6days are the same or the only difference is the stator?
Thank you all for your responsiveness!

Anders 02-05-2021 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kostisbezos (Post 197514)
So bike probably has Sachs/Ohlins. Is that a "standard" version right? Flywheels on standard/6days are the same or the only difference is the stator?
Thank you all for your responsiveness!

Well, yes, Sachs/Ohlins was surely one of the combinations at that time. I think they offered different combinations in different markets. As Jacob 'Berg pointed out above, there were 3 different forks in use, I presume that was in the US market. Jacob told us that the Sachs were used in the base/standard model there.

I don't think there was any difference in stators or flywheels in 2011.
The difference (apart from the suspension) between the standard and six days models were mainly cosmetic. The SixDays was more "completely" equipped, with some protection under the engine etc. Perhaps another type of handlebar.
But this was 10 years ago, most of these parts will have been replaced several times if the bike has been ridden off road for 10 years. So what's important (in my view) is the state of the bike that you buy. Does it seem to be well maintained?
One word of caution regarding the Sachs forks; I fear spare parts can be a (even) bigger problem there than the Marzocchis, but I don't know. I have a son with a Sachs-equipped EC300, he has not needed any spare parts lately :-)

kostisbezos 02-05-2021 10:31 AM

It seems to be well maintained. I am skeptical about what I'll see when the mechanic opens the cylinder. I hope it will be ok.
Owner has changed the fork-suspension springs with harder ones.
My weight (85kg) is for 44( is this number a kind of hardness?) springs.
This is the 2nd owner and with my turn I'll become 3rd.
Forks and suspension had a service when the current owner bought it but I don't know what does it means. What does include a fork/suspension service? Some oil change or what?!

Jacob 'Berg 02-05-2021 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders (Post 197516)
Well, yes, Sachs/Ohlins was surely one of the combinations at that time. I think they offered different combinations in different markets. As Jacob 'Berg pointed out above, there were 3 different forks in use, I presume that was in the US market. Jacob told us that the Sachs were used in the base/standard model there.

I don't think there was any difference in stators or flywheels in 2011.
The difference (apart from the suspension) between the standard and six days models were mainly cosmetic. The SixDays was more "completely" equipped, with some protection under the engine etc. Perhaps another type of handlebar.
But this was 10 years ago, most of these parts will have been replaced several times if the bike has been ridden off road for 10 years. So what's important (in my view) is the state of the bike that you buy. Does it seem to be well maintained?
One word of caution regarding the Sachs forks; I fear spare parts can be a (even) bigger problem there than the Marzocchis, but I don't know. I have a son with a Sachs-equipped EC300, he has not needed any spare parts lately :-)

I believe that the 2011 base model had Sachs suspension, front and rear. The shock should be easily identified by the red reservoir.

kostisbezos 02-05-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob 'Berg (Post 197519)
I believe that the 2011 base model had Sachs suspension, front and rear. The shock should be easily identified by the red reservoir.

Back suspension is Ohlins

Anders 02-06-2021 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kostisbezos (Post 197517)
...
Owner has changed the fork-suspension springs with harder ones.
My weight (85kg) is for 44( is this number a kind of hardness?) springs.

...

Forks and suspension had a service when the current owner bought it but I don't know what does it means. What does include a fork/suspension service? Some oil change or what?!

The 44 is the stiffness of the springs, aka spring constant. 44 is actually 0.44 kg/mm. Higher number means stiffer spring. If you are interested in the physics, take a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooke%27s_law

Fork and shock service usually includes replacement of oil, sliding bushings and seals, plus full cleaning of all internal parts. I do it every 40-50 hours or so. Ohlins states every 25 hours for some of their products.

kostisbezos 02-06-2021 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders (Post 197521)
The 44 is the stiffness of the springs, aka spring constant. 44 is actually 0.44 kg/mm. Higher number means stiffer spring. If you are interested in the physics, take a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooke%27s_law

Fork and shock service usually includes replacement of oil, sliding bushings and seals, plus full cleaning of all internal parts. I do it every 40-50 hours or so. Ohlins states every 25 hours for some of their products.


I am studying in the second year as a mechanical engineer :D. 25 hours is quite frequently. Should i pay attention to anything else on the bike before buying it?
Subframe or something else?
Thanks for your response guys


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