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brads1725 09-01-2020 02:50 AM

Lowered Base Gasket from .5 to .3, now bog at WOT
 
Hi All,
New to the GG community here, only owned one for about 6 rides.
Bought a 2014 EC250 Factory Replica, was going great all around. Engine has 96 hours on it so pulled the cylinder out and threw a wiseco piston in it. While I was at it I dropped the base gasket from the .50 to the .30.
Bike runs great bottom end, idles fine, pulls up the front wheel as you roll the throttle on. But now if you dump the throttle to wide open it bogs.
I got the bike at 81hours and it was a little boggy revving, it had an old B7ES in it, changed it to a BR8EG and went great for the next 15hrs - nice tan colour.

Now with the new piston and the WOT bog its looking black.
Does any one know of any jetting changes that must be done when dropping the base gasket?? only 0.2mm difference, wouldn't have though it would change much. Didn't check squish with solder (lockdown) just a bit of blutac, so will be a bit inaccurate but was something along the lines of 2.0-2.3.
It has sat with motul 800 in the tank and carb for 3 weeks, so I will pull the carb and clean it in case its and issue with old fuel/oil separating. Will put a new BR8EG in it tomorrow to make sure that isn't the issue.
Everything was going good before, bit of wear on the piston but good for 96hrs. Only trail riding at sea level. Everything is stock otherwise.
Power Valve operating freely, ran it with the cover off
New coolant, dumped it and clean.
Oil Level fine, no sign of water
Im not going to get the head machined or anything, everything was all good before so worst case scenario i will roll back to the .50 gasket. Just be good if there is a known jet change to get the best of both worlds

Cheers all

(F5) 09-01-2020 03:29 AM

Def clean the carb including breathers. New piston is change too, better pumping.

WFO is mainjet. Try 1 size down and see if it is better.

hannesd 09-01-2020 01:08 PM

i would also go down 1 size on the MJ

brads1725 09-01-2020 01:27 PM

Cheers, Ill give it a go and let you know

brads1725 09-01-2020 02:00 PM

Just had a look , main jet is a 188. A little big for sea level?
What is the standard for an EC250?

brads1725 09-01-2020 09:45 PM

Put a new plug in, no change.
Pulled the base gasket out and switched back to a .50, same as what came out.
Bog at WOT still there. Its fine at half, pulls hard but if you dump it to full it just gurgles.
Pulled the choke out and its the same bog, little worse so must be too much fuel.
Think I will swap that 188 main jet out for a 175. Seems to be all I can find in stock.

(F5) 09-02-2020 02:12 AM

Thats an enormous change of 5 sizes. I wouldn't do that without being sure others are running that on 250s. My 300 runs smaller still but that counts for nothing.

What is stock?

hannesd 09-02-2020 11:55 PM

why change out the base gasket again instead of just the MJ?
188 seems very large, just look in the jetting database to get an idea.

did you think of the powervalve operating correctly?
if this problem started from when you took the cilinder off...

brads1725 09-03-2020 12:14 AM

Im starting to think the problem was there before but I ride trails and never dump it to WOT. It's very spoogey out the back end
It's got a 188 in it and the manual calls for a 175. Apart from that I don't think the engine had been played with.
I ordered a main jet kit with 10 options so ill start tinkering and keep you posted.

Gasser Nate 09-03-2020 05:50 AM

Usually 250?s like a main one or two sizes larger than a 300 and a pilot one size larger. I?ll guess a 178 will be good with that needle on clip 2 or 3.


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