thanks jakobi its got the plastic piston band 16mm shaft ,the seal looks like a over size x ring ,it had lost 1/3 of its oil ill give k tek uk a ring if not ill do as you suggested on the seal m not had a chance to play with my cc marzocchi yet richard wilson from usa/ gg facebook page has softer ppf/ ics springs seriously thinking getting an 18 just need to get rid of the 05 013 and a 490 maico or two think the only thing id miss is the 013 ttx shock dont suppose it fit the 18 thanks again robin
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