[hadfield4wd]

I'm still a little "put-off" by clubs. I was pretty heavily involved in 4 wheeling and rock crawling. An officer of clubs and working on trail projects to keep trail open etc etc.

Turns out one club completely screwed up and got a place shut down. Stupid bickering.

I just got tired of the BS involved. I was into the more extreme riding than others. They wanted to ride around on dirt roads once or twice a month and have a "meeting" which consisted of the same person rambling on about nothing and beer.

However if I wanted to put on an event it can't be done without a lot of people involved. I wish I could find one locally. But the ones I have been involved in have not been that great. More talk than walk. Even tried to get a dual sport one together last year, but couldn't get much interest.

Well now when I want to go riding a call a couple friends and we go. No fuss. We all are very comfortable with each other and our riding.

If one started up here locally I would be involved. We had a local place almost get shut down due to pressure from neighbors, and the community rallied around the property owner. The ruling was no expansion, but they can keep what they have. Lots of racers here, harescrambles and such and also big BMW dual sports but not that many who like to do the harder stuff I do on my DS. Not many trail riders that I've come across.