[swazi_matt]

Jake you are probably right it is easy to get hold of watsy's dvd (although he is Australian so it will probably not be as good) and a camera and a few buddies and you may come out with a better result - provided your buddies all agree that the way things are done on the eve are the right way to do them

The only thing you will miss out on is being able to ask questions

The thing I did realize is that the pro's spend a lot of time doing drills - practicing skills from full-lock circles and figure eights to log hopping and practice them until there is no longer an element of luck involved in the maneuver - and this is probably where most of us fall short we too busy wanting to hit the trails than spend an afternoon practicing endo's