2014 Test Ride Video footage

is that hill at 4;29 really that tuff?
I know the camera can deceive but .....

looks like knobs with 25psi and no momentum doesn't work.....must be the bike....need a bored out ktm...

5;12 crash says get a quad....
 
Hello,
I'm Andreagasgas92...
Unfortunately, on the day of the test the EC 300 had a new mousse on the rear wheel, so in the stones had no traction.
However, the trail at 4:29 is very hard ! (in the video it seems very easy).

Greetings from italy !

Andrea

P.S. sorry for my bad english....
 
The ol' stiff Mousse got you....

Camera angles never tell the whole story.

What year bike did you ride at Romaniacs? That is your Youtube footage from Romaniacs I see all the time right?

So I would assume the suspension was probably stiff and not broke in on the Test bike?

I'm curious to hear your opinion on the 14'.
 
Hills always look easier on video. There is a local hill that is almost vertical with only a bike's length run up. I watched some friends try to climb it on video and they all failed and I joked I could climb it on a pedal bike. I have since seen that hill an I had to eat crow as I couldn't make it up either LOL. But it didn't look nearly as steep/difficult in video as it was in person.
 
Coop said:
Hills always look easier on video. There is a local hill that is almost vertical with only a bike's length run up. I watched some friends try to climb it on video and they all failed and I joked I could climb it on a pedal bike. I have since seen that hill an I had to eat crow as I couldn't make it up either LOL. But it didn't look nearly as steep/difficult in video as it was in person.
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That is too true. These wide angle cameras have a real knack at both smoothing out the ground, as well as eliminating any angles of the hill.

While its also easy to sit back and have a laugh at someone struggling up what appears to be a slight incline, the conditions can have a lot to do with it and it can be somewhat difficult to see what the traction is like.

For example, a hill here that is usually quite easy and fun, but takes some commitment and throttle to climb became unpassable last ride simply due to being slick and wet. Typically I'd attack it in 2nd gear on the pipe. Doing so just kept the wheel spinning until the momentum ran out. Clicked up to 3rd to try and carry more momentum and dull the spin, but the same thing would happen. More speed helped, but still, no one made it up that day. 2/3rds was about the best attempt. Once stopped there was no going anywhere but sliding back down with the bike.
 
The guy, Andrea, has done Romaniacs. So I know he can handle his bike. The conditions looked sketchy, especially on a test bike with stiff Mousse and suspension. He was moving good considering the situation.

I know I'm glad there is no video of my last ride. Everyone would be laughing at me and my hill climbing escapades.
 
Nothing yet Stu. Maybe next fall. I sold my business in December and I'm a House Husband at the moment. Back in November, I had a deal worked out with her about selling both my bikes to get a 14. However, things have changed dramatically since then. This is what the current deal is now:

"You need to focus on starting another business. Not on building,setting up, or racing a new dirt bike....."

That is pretty much what she said.......LOL:)

My wife is very smart, cool, hot, and a great Cajun cook. She has even bought me bikes before and lets me ride and race all over the USA. In fact, she bought me my first GasGas yrs ago. So I'm just going to do what she says and enjoy having my WR450 until I can get another 2 stroke. My little boy just started riding at Xmas so I'm with him a lot now instead of my regular group.

I want a 14 GG 250 Race very badly so, I'm hoping to change her mind bc I have the cash from the sale of my 2012 just sitting on my desk. I'm not depositing it yet.....
 
Bandit9 said:
Nothing yet Stu. Maybe next fall. I sold my business in December and I'm a House Husband at the moment. Back in November, I had a deal worked out with her about selling both my bikes to get a 14. However, things have changed dramatically since then. This is what the current deal is now:

"You need to focus on starting another business. Not on building,setting up, or racing a new dirt bike....."

That is pretty much what she said.......LOL:)

My wife is very smart, cool, hot, and a great Cajun cook. She has even bought me bikes before and lets me ride and race all over the USA. In fact, she bought me my first GasGas yrs ago. So I'm just going to do what she says and enjoy having my WR450 until I can get another 2 stroke. My little boy just started riding at Xmas so I'm with him a lot now instead of my regular group.

I want a 14 GG 250 Race very badly so, I'm hoping to change her mind bc I have the cash from the sale of my 2012 just sitting on my desk. I'm not depositing it yet.....
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You know that owning a motorcycle dealership/repair shop is a business, right? And, you could become a Gas Gas dealer, right? Just saying.
 
pscook said:
You know that owning a motorcycle dealership/repair shop is a business, right? And, you could become a Gas Gas dealer, right? Just saying.
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I've considered it, but I'm not that confident I could sell enough bikes. Lots of dealers with leftover 12's and 13's.......I also hate working on my bike, let alone someone else's bike. I'm not a lover of wrenches.

Plus I don't care for the way the management at GG in Spain operates. I like the bikes, but have watched this circus operate for 15 yrs and they still leave me scratching my head.
 
Vindicator said:
Andrea,

Welcome on board !

What's your opinion on the 14' 300 you tested ?
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The day of the test I had my bike (2012 EC 300 R), so I could make a direct comparison.



The first impression with the 2014 300 is to have a bike 10 kg lighter, even though in reality it weighs only 2 kg less (verified).
The 2014 is extremely agile compared to the 2012, and however it's still very stable.
The 2014 300 that i've tried did not have the original marzocchi 48 fork, it has
a version modified by GasGas italia, very hard... In fact in the stones the bike was not very precise.
The reiger shock instead worked very well !! much better compared to the 2012 ohlins. (on my bike I had to replace the ohlins with a sachs because the bike was very difficult to ride with the ohlins....)

The 2014 engine has a lot of more torque at low and medium revs, but it is not very powerful at high revs (my 2012 has more power at high revs, but I mount the s3 head).
In the video, at 7:02, there are a series of rock steps (50cm each), with my 2012 300 I have to do them in first gear (in second gear, the engine turns off) instead with the 2014 300 I can do them with the second gear !
There is a big difference between 2012 and 2014 at low revs, my 2012 looks like a 125 compared to the 2014.

The only thing I did not like of the 2014 it's the clutch, I prefer my magura pump...but my bike mounts a special clutch basket and clutch cover...so I can not make a real comparison.

Andrea
 
Thanks for replying Andrea. We haven't had many people test ride the 2014, so there is an interest in your video.

Only 2kg less???? Can you explain this in more detail? Did you go weigh it around the corner? What was the weight?

Also, did you not have the 12 Ohlins shock re valved for you needs before buying a whole new shock? Mine was really good after my guy worked his magic. This is the first I've heard of someone going from an Ohlins to a Sach's.

If you were on stiff Bib Mousse, then that bike could handle completely different with tubes at 12 psi. Kind of hard to judge handling in that scenario.

Did you happen to ride the 250?
 
The bike was weighed by gasgas italy mechanic.
He told me that the 2014 weighs 2-2,5 kg less than the 2012-2013 (weighed on the same scales).

My ohlins was prepared and modified three times before being replaced by a sachs.
In italy there are many GasGas riders desperate with 2012-2013 ohlins shocks...
The sachs shock, with the right setting, works much better !

I also tried the 2014 EC 250, but for a short time, I was more interested in the 300.
 
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