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Old 06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
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Default 2011 GG 300 SD squish, comp, and jetting data

I have been reading about the GG and how for off the squish #s are form the factory. So I checked mine today. Maybe we could collect info on what squish, compression, and jetting.

Ok my bike runs fantastic with none of the issues I have read about. Just as a side note I did have a 2011 ktm 300 before this bike. This GG has more low end grunt than the ktm and about the same top end.

elevation 5000 ft
Squish .078
compression 170 psi cold and dry (no oil)
carb old style 38 mm
main 165
needle stock in stock position
pilot stock
air screw 2 turns
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:35 PM
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Is that a typo?? .078 inches = 1.9812 millimetres which sounds around right. The magic number is around 1.2-1.3mm.

Also when you mention older style what do you mean? The pastic screw cap on top? or the metal cap retained with 2 screws? The later being newer.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:07 PM
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Yes that was a typo.

The carb is the early style screw down top. It has the 2 screws not allens. The other 300 at the dealer had the allens.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:52 PM
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I'm interested in this squish thing. I will wait until I pull the top end apart for sevice then send in the head to Ron. I could use some more bottom end snap, but I don't want a huge MX hit or anything.

Jakobi, I just got my N3EH and NOZH in the mail today!
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:28 PM
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If your stock squish is 1.98 (as was mine on my 2005 DE250), then having RB take it down to 1.2-ish as mine was will really, really, bring out the beast right where you want it.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:11 AM
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I'm interested in this squish thing. I will wait until I pull the top end apart for sevice then send in the head to Ron. I could use some more bottom end snap, but I don't want a huge MX hit or anything.

Jakobi, I just got my N3EH and NOZH in the mail today!
Betting you'll love the NOZH! its more of a linear rip than the N3 range.

I'm in discussion with a local shop, a specialist, and a bike store trying to determine if its better to go with the head mod or an S3. Only real advantage to S3 is that I can always return back to stock. Probably won't get the squish down to 1.2/1.3mm with it (but definately wont know until I measure the current head). Might have to pull it down on days off and see what I have. Decide if which way to go, and then leave the bike until I do the top end.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:56 AM
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How much is the S3?
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:08 AM
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Yes that was a typo.

The carb is the early style screw down top. It has the 2 screws not allens. The other 300 at the dealer had the allens.
Screws (phillips head) or allen keys are the same internally. The older model Air strikers have no metal cap at all. A round threaded plastic cap only.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:46 AM
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Default 2005 GG EC200 Squish, compression, jetting

During my recent top end rebuild, I measured my squish to be 2.1mm at the outside edge and my compression at 125psi. So, I sent my head off to Ron and had him take it down to 1.1mm. I also tried to have Ron adjust the volume of the combustion chamber to raise my compression since the bike has never had higher than 130 psi even when new. (This is at 6,600 feet elevation so there's an expected loss of around 20% or approximately 30psi.) Unfortunately, when I got the head back, the squish was right on at 1.1mm but my compression stayed the same. Ron adjusted the volume of the cc to be around 16cc but I think at this elevation, I probably need to take it down to 13 to 14cc. I wonder if the other GG's of this vintage also have low compression from the factory. I was surprised to see how high SixDays compression was at 5,000 feet. Maybe GG fixed this problem on the newer bikes.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:05 AM
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Default Squish measuring

I measured my 09 ec300 today and the .095"/ 2.41 mm solder I laid across the piston didn't even get touched. So I'm at work measuring up a piece of round stock so that I can machine the head my self. measure 3x then cut once, i suppose. I will have to see if my mandrel spins the head concentrically or not. the head seems pretty uniform, i was going to thread some rod to screw into the plug hole and see what it looks like from there.
btw. I didn't do a compression check first, so i'll bolt the head back on in am and do that first. got to have a baseline, I run 94 octane Chevron gas at 500 to 1500 ft. Pacific coast BC
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