#21
|
||||
|
||||
I think GG is off on the wrong track here. If I wanted a Yamaha I would go down to the Yamaha store and buy one. The 250f market is crowded with the most excellent KTM and Yamaha leading the pack with the street legal Husky also available.
I'd be a little concerned if I was a dealer ordering these machines. The GG300 has a decent following and some KTM riders have been picking them up. I just don't see a new 250f from GG making any inroads unless it has something really different to offer. The frame and suspension difference aren't going to do it IMHO. Street legal would grab some sales though.
__________________
04 Montesa 315R, 07 EC300, 21 KTM Erzberg 300, 21 Sherco 300 SEF-F, 23 KTM 690, 23 Rieju Mr Pro 300 |
#22
|
||||
|
||||
Here's Sherco's 250F!
Found post on Thumper Talk: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=719128 |
#23
|
||||
|
||||
Here is some interesting reading. Aussie Dirt Bike Mag shootout between the KTM, Husky, Sherco and Yamaha 250 4 strokes for 09. The Honda was not available yet. I like that Sherco and with proper tweaks could be super sweet.
FWIW they mention the Yami motor needs a 6th gear and even though jetted perfectly was a good bit less fuel efficient than the others in the test. Very good overall power though. http://www.adbmag.com/ContentItem.aspx?contentID=3994
__________________
07 EC 300 (under 500 miles, selling soon) 97 KTM 250 EXC (sold) 2016 Trek Remedy 29er Last edited by Skidad; 05-14-2009 at 05:48 PM. |
#24
|
||||
|
||||
I didn't want to poo-poo the idea, but just sticking a yamaha motor in it does nothing for GasGas. There is nothing unique to draw in buyers. The 250 4T market is overloaded as is. I agree with Glenn that it does lower investment cost but GasGas needs to only use the yamaha engine as a starting point. Perhaps the 5 speed tranny would work, but the 6 speed allows you to modify/fine tune final drive ratios with sprockets much better. I'm not going for top speed, but better spread of power.
IMO, GasGas should purchase unassembled engine components from Yamaha. They can install their own "300cc+ cylinder and piston kit", install the other Yamaha valve/cam components, and Yamaha lower case with tranny according to GG's spec. Then, replace the side covers with GG versions. This would be a true GasGas-Yamaha hybrid with a unique 300/350cc displacement. It's something that I would be willing to buy.
__________________
Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
#25
|
||||
|
||||
Is a Beta really a Beta? Or a KTM in a red dress with a linkage?
__________________
Rick 99 EC 200 06 RM 250 AMA D36 375X OTHG 375S ***Thanks for the support : Twin Air /O'Neil Racing / Race 100% / Matrix Concepts / ODI / Mika Metals |
#26
|
||||
|
||||
VERY different bike but decide for yourself. I would love to own one of these beauties.
__________________
07 EC 300 (under 500 miles, selling soon) 97 KTM 250 EXC (sold) 2016 Trek Remedy 29er |
#27
|
||||
|
||||
Is that not a KTM powerplant in a Beta frame??
__________________
Rick 99 EC 200 06 RM 250 AMA D36 375X OTHG 375S ***Thanks for the support : Twin Air /O'Neil Racing / Race 100% / Matrix Concepts / ODI / Mika Metals |
#28
|
||||
|
||||
Yes. Old school KTM motor.
I've seen a lot of broken Betas at the National Enduros. |
#29
|
||||
|
||||
It couldn't have been from the KTM RFS engine. They've proven to be superb engines (20k+ hard miles are common).
__________________
04 Montesa 315R, 07 EC300, 21 KTM Erzberg 300, 21 Sherco 300 SEF-F, 23 KTM 690, 23 Rieju Mr Pro 300 |
#30
|
|||
|
|||
Hey,GG used to use TM motors!
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
GasGas EC500 2 Stroke - what do you think? | Keg | Enduro Engine - 2 stroke | 10 | 07-12-2010 06:38 PM |
EC250 engine rebuild? | robszombie | Enduro Engine - 2 stroke | 3 | 12-07-2009 11:38 AM |
07 EC250 Cylinder head engine mount | WTEC | Enduro Engine - 2 stroke | 4 | 09-02-2009 07:12 AM |
4 Stroke GasGas questions | Trailrider | General Discussions & Announcements | 11 | 08-20-2009 10:42 AM |
Good GasGas 2 stroke mechanic near Portland Or | lineman12345678 | General Discussions & Announcements | 15 | 05-16-2009 10:32 AM |