Dirt Rider 300 2 stroke shoot out

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by mcnut

At risk of being banned from this awesome forum, I can honestly say I was never so glad to be done with a motorcycle. The day I shipped off that 2012 Gasser was cause for celebration.
I still love my 2011 and my 2001 Gassers.

Only two people have ever been banned here - and both were banned because they attacked others in a personal way. I heard something once that that we make a very hard rule here - "It is okay to attack an idea. But, it is not okay to attack a person".

So expressing your opinion here won't get you banned. This "club" and website is community owned and not for profit. You own it just as much as anyone else here...

If anyone wants to throw stones at you personally for your post - they will be dealt with by me or one of the other moderators - that's our job here...

I ask all members to treat each other with respect at all times and not "battle each other" or "throw stones". Besides just being "bad karma" - It takes valuable time on the part of the moderators to clean things up when things get off track - all should be respectful of that fact.

Thanks,
Jeff

[AZRickD]

Crap !!

I had collected an Easter basket full of metaphorical rocks, ripe for the throwin'.

[webmaster]

Hmmm.. My daughter has sometimes referred to me as a "fun-sucking killjoy". I guess it's true!

Jeff

[Beta Steve]

My son used to call me a fun sucker...
What we need here is an all inclusive 300 test from a [much] lesser biased mag like this one from Transmoto out of Australia:
http://www.transmoto.com.au/publish/...Husaberg-FE350
I actually made a special trip to the library to read the test everyone loves to hate, so as to not support the magazine. It almost put me to sleep.

[AZRickD]

Transmoto server won't open.

[webmaster]

Fixed it.

jeff

[john01]

WOW ....now that's a in depth bike review! I'm not looking at any of those bikes but it was good reading; thanks for posting it up.

[Moto7man]

Great article, its nice to know a littile more about the Beta, the actual weight savings and which specific components were trimmed down. that polycarbonate subframe could be a real problem.

Frames, hubs, swingarm and wheels were all very beefy and, as a result, the four-stroke Betas were 11kg heavier than their KTM counterparts. Which is a lot. So it?s good to see that the thrust of Beta?s 2013 upgrades is about refining components to save weight. For 2013, the entire Beta range gets revisions to frame, subframe, swingarm, wheels, hubs and bodywork, all of which adds up to a saving of 5kg. Just 3.3kg now separates the Beta and KTM 300cc two-strokes on our digital scales

For aggressive trailriders and racers, however, the Sachs suspension hasn?t kept pace with the competition and still lets the Beta down.

?The polycarbonate subframe gets more cutaway sections to suit the all-new fuel tank. It?s lighter and improves access to the shock absorber.

[twowheels]

Originally Posted by Moto7man

Great article, its nice to know a littile more about the Beta, the actual weight savings and which specific components were trimmed down. that polycarbonate subframe could be a real problem.

Done right, a poly subframe is no problem. The Beta unit is very different than the GasGas piece, as is the Husaberg.

[Moto7man]

Originally Posted by twowheels

Done right, a poly subframe is no problem. The Beta unit is very different than the GasGas piece, as is the Husaberg.

I was browsing through the net, I couldn't find any posts/comments about problems with the Husaberg subframe, maybe the Beta is a good design too.