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From my experience I would say the bike has given up very little off idle torque. It'll still tractor down and pull a gear heigh. Maybe not as well as the 300 did, but enough to keep the bike moving in the right direction. The 250 has a bit more hit and feels more aggressive to ride.. or should I say I feel that I can ride the 250 more aggressively and it rewards you for doing so. The 300 was agro when riden that way but it was always too much to hold onto. Added to that the 300 comes into comparable power around 1000rpm sooner so with the power curve sitting lower in the rpm it was tugging at the arms more often than not. I like that the 250 has the soft bottom end that you can ride all day without issue, and any time you need the power just turn the throttle and you'll have as much if not more than the 300 up top. I'd have to go back to a 300 to evaluate again, but for now I'm sticking with the 250 Look forward to hearing Trevs reviews in a couple weeks! |
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Well I finally have gotten the 250 top end in and it turned out to be a little more of a pain than anticipated. The 300 cylinder came off looking great! No wear signs on the walls at all but were we encountered problems was the retrofit of the PV into the new 250 cylinder. I cleaned it up really good(I thought) but after install there was some binding every 6 or 7 twists of the shaft so teared it all back down and dug away at the carbon again on the assembly until she was near spotless then re installed and was operating very smoothly. I used a .5mm base gasket and the red(high compression) insert. Everything went back together smoothly but forgot new crush washers for the head and thought I could get away with the old ones cleaned up and I was wrong! Put new washers on head and all is good with no leaks. I changed my jetting to 172 main with Jd red needle middle clip and a 38 pilot(for the rest of winter then 35) she started second kick and sounds good. Haven't had time for a ride yet but should be on it within the next week. Ill post back my thoughts of the first ride then!
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So I've had the 250 out about 3 times so far and put about 12 hours on it. I had to adjusted the pilot slightly richer to a 40 and will leave it there since my smart carb will be here soon. I also changed the rear sprocket to a 50t on the back as I felt from my initial impressions that I was lacking a tiny yet subtle low low end threw tight single track. I feel fast on the bike, I don't know why because to me the bike doesn't feel heavier but perhaps the throttle and bottom end lacking a bit might inspire confidence because of less thought put on control. I took my 200 cam out from my g2 throttle system and went with the 100 and find it quite good but might prefer one step quicker cam in delivering the power. The biggest improvement I can see by far for me is the hill climbing. It almost seems as though everything is in slow motion when I'm climbing now. I can focus on things I previously wasn't focused on like terrain I'm about to hit ie. step ups and big rocks etc. I can only relate this to the fact that I'm not focused on taming the bike on wild technical hill climb, instead I just let it scream and clutch away and it seems like the power gets delivered in a much more manageable way. Top end feel is very similar and don't feel my buddies on there 300's pull on me in the straights. I am very pleased with the down sizing and the control it has offered me and am now excited to see what a 200 would feel like! I'm going to the track tomorrow(first ride on rubber this year) and am going with a buddy with a new 200 so it'll be a very interesting day!
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Carefull Jake,
The 200 is a ripper for sure!!!! |
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Yup I actually did notice quite a big difference in vibration!
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I'm friggin stoked to try this 200! Sounds crazy cause I love this new 250 but after all the 200 talk I want to know what all the hype is about
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I was always in the 250 camp. Managing extra power is just wasted energy, not to mention the added vibes. I have a 300 top end I was going to try but I'm selling it instead, ridden the 300 s enough to know the 250 is better for me.
I think I found what the 250 likes for low end grunt, and that's a larger ID silencer core. Ever since I put that Canon on the bike pulls hard off the bottom and rips through the range. I know a local shop used to do the same to GG200s a few years back. I can't wait for the SmartCarb to see what that adds. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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I have tried buying a 2012 and 2013. None delivered to Australia. That ship has sailed. The coins saved actually went towards the suspension setup, tooling, 250 build, and just maintaining the current bike. After owning the 250 and being as stoked as I am I think its the bike for me. The 200 would be grouse for the single track, but I think the 250 gives the best of both worlds (he says without trying a 200). Hahha!
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