ec300 or ec450

[roostafish]

As I just read this again, I begin to wonder. Are most of us Gas Gas riders just two stroke riders by nature? Now that the Japanese have completely abandoned the two stroke enduro bike, there are only four real options left to buy a completed bike to ride. All four (KTM,TM, Husqvarna, Gas Gas) make good equipment that I would be happy to ride. The Gas Gas for me is the best, mostly because of the way it handles. Plus the fact that I have a really good dealer not far away.

[stainlesscycle]

yamaha still makes yz125/yz250 and supposedly the maicos (do they even exist in the real world?)

[Rick]

Of course they do.....just have to look under a rock

http://twostrokemotocross.com/2010/0...ard-250-m-m-x/

[roostafish]

Originally Posted by stainlesscycle

yamaha still makes yz125/yz250 and supposedly the maicos (do they even exist in the real world?)

The YZ's are great bikes, but they're far from enduro or trail ready. Kickstand, rear wheel, no lighting coil, suspension......
I was thinking like the old RMX, those days are long gone.

[gasmonkey]

I have both (300+450) sitting in the garage.Being a 4st man all my life the fi450 was the ultimate ride.Thats untill Ipurchased the 300.It's areal buzz to ride in any conditions.thrash it and it just comes back for more.Now theres nothing wrong with the 450 but in my case it's used as a parts mule for the bike I get excited by riding.
I have a friend in th e exactly the same position as I but has the 250racing.Since buying the 2st the 4fiddy has been pushed to the back wall and hasn't fired a shot for 2 years.
Imo do a short cut,go get a 300,you won't regret it.

[fkmf6]

Originally Posted by gasmonkey

I have both (300+450) sitting in the garage.Being a 4st man all my life the fi450 was the ultimate ride.Thats untill Ipurchased the 300.It's areal buzz to ride in any conditions.thrash it and it just comes back for more.Now theres nothing wrong with the 450 but in my case it's used as a parts mule for the bike I get excited by riding.
I have a friend in th e exactly the same position as I but has the 250racing.Since buying the 2st the 4fiddy has been pushed to the back wall and hasn't fired a shot for 2 years.
Imo do a short cut,go get a 300,you won't regret it.

gasmonkey thanks for your opinion, i feel the gas gas forums are very 2t orientated (nothing wrong with that). i agree that the 300 would be a fun bike and get a buzz out of it but i feel you gotta be on the limit with a 2t more than a 4t to get the same result. outright speed the 450 is faster and gets there easier wouldnt you agree. i feel more riders ride the 2t cause they cant handle the 450 is that a fair assumption. im interested in flying through the woods and tracks and doing 4th gear monos not got over rocks at 10klmhr and ride the bike for 2hrs, looking at maintenance reliability no jetting no mixing fuels riding for 3 days covering 300-400 km.

[Skidad]

Here's your solution (it seems you really want a 4 stroke deep down). Get the new GG 250F and put on the 290/300 kit (whatever the size is I'm not sure) and do all the uncorking that probably needs to be done in stock from. Great motor and all the Yamaha hop up stuff is available for it. Durable to but no FI but no biggie really. Or wait a few more months and just maybe GG might actually have the 2011 e-start 300 ready

[fkmf6]

Originally Posted by Skidad

Here's your solution (it seems you really want a 4 stroke deep down). Get the new GG 250F and put on the 290/300 kit (whatever the size is I'm not sure) and do all the uncorking that probably needs to be done in stock from. Great motor and all the Yamaha hop up stuff is available for it. Durable to but no FI but no biggie really. Or wait a few more months and just maybe GG might actually have the 2011 e-start 300 ready

why would you suggest a big bore kit on a 250 4t when you have awesome power with a 450 to begin with, that already has Fi. i just dont understand why so many of you put down the 450, is it a shit bike or is it that you have to be a pro rider to ride it, or is it too much of a weapon that you cant handle so you ride a smaller bike cause its easier

[bergerhag]

Originally Posted by fkmf6

..that you have to be a pro rider to ride it, or is it too much of a weapon that you cant handle so you ride a smaller bike cause its easier

Nothing of the sort. The FI gives you an almost linear powercurve, very very easy to handle.

[Skidad]

Originally Posted by fkmf6

why would you suggest a big bore kit on a 250 4t when you have awesome power with a 450 to begin with, that already has Fi. i just dont understand why so many of you put down the 450, is it a shit bike or is it that you have to be a pro rider to ride it, or is it too much of a weapon that you cant handle so you ride a smaller bike cause its easier

Simple for me (you of course will be different). As a hard core trail or race bike for the conditions I ride I do not want a 270lb plus bike which the GG 450 is. A 250F will be close to 30lbs less and the 300 kit makes it easier to ride and more versatile. If you tend to ride in more wide open conditions, do a fair bit of road linking trails together or just in general then the 450 might be the ticket for you. It seems GG has gotten most of the reliability issues worked out with newer 450's (525's...do they still make that?) and it's a nice FI system. If you like to ride a long way without needing to refuel you might look into what oversize tanks are available before you drop the cash.