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Old 07-30-2010, 10:14 AM
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They will sell every one of them that they make, but for the $500 extra that it costs, the weight and the general ugliness of it, I will kick start my 2011 EC250.


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Old 07-30-2010, 10:32 AM
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They will sell every one of them that they make, but for the $500 extra that it costs, the weight and the general ugliness of it, I will kick start my 2011 EC250.
Are there really that many pinko commie liberals out there that every one will sell? Estart on a two stroke still wont alleviate stalling because of wimpy's poor clutch and throttle technique.It will however help with your stopping and starting every five minutes because your an out of shape socialist wimp. Reverup and trail builders exemp. Estart two strokes today, big brother in every aspect of your life tommorow. George Washington had wooden teeth and utered some of the finest words ever spoken. The founding fathers must be groaning in their graves---groaning!
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:49 AM
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Looks like the blowout preventer stack on BPs well...

I hate to say it and rain on the parade but I expected something totally different. It looks like it may even hinder spartplug access.
I love this response. Hopefully it works better than BPs attempt for those that throw their money down.

I also expected something far different than this and if it is a 500$ addition it would be hard for me to option it on in its current form. As mentioned by several the plug access is gone, that sucks.

On a side note I have wore my kick start lever and gear out on my last two 300's with all the restarting I do setting up course's. Thats my main motivation for a e start 2 stroke. Maybe I'll just kick my wife off her WR 250F when it's time for work. I have actually used it before for that and it's so nice to have a button for that particular reason.

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Old 07-30-2010, 11:05 AM
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A buddy of mine just commented the other day that the estart on his ktm 300 stopped working, he's clueless on maintainence and has'nt serviced the starter and its bendix ever. Will be interesting to see what the $ damage will be compared to replacing a kicker every two years. How do you improve on a beutifully simplistic kick start system? Batteries are'nt free either and those guys over in India, we are enabling, leeching lead and heavy metals into the sea water because he's dismantiling that old oil tanker right on the beach to make new batteries. I dont care how far away he is that crap is in to our food supply.It's a race to the bottom And its just not neccesary!
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:15 AM
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I expected something totally different. It looks like it may even hinder sparkplug access. I wonder if its a major compromise on their part to get past the KTM patent. I can see something like the old '04 and prior connterbalancer cases, with the motor inside, driving a sprag on the primary side.
I also figured they would do something similar to the old cases. That's a generic starter motor, not a lighter unit more suitable for a two stroke. Even the battery looks to be a regular size unit. Worst case scenario would be to remove it all. Maybe someone will post up the actual weight difference. I don't see it being that big a penalty for casual riders.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:27 AM
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I think 10 lbs is more realistic.
ytz7s battery is 5lbs...starter motor gotta be 4-5lbs. extra crap like brackets, bendix, relay, ring gear, regulator/rectifier etc... maybe i was enthusiastic at 20lbs - but 15 at least...

either way, no o/s pv cover, less access to sparkplug, and a big honking doo-dad obscuring the view of a nice looking motor. plus another buncha maintenance - charging system adequate to keep the $130 battery juiced? more hassle then it's worth to me. to each his own i guess, but i don't really need an electric leg. will it sell more bikes? probably. and what's good for the company is good for all of us. money keeps parts flowing.
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George Washington had wooden teeth and utered some of the finest words ever spoken. The founding fathers must be groaning in their graves---groaning!
Thats funny! The founding fathers are groaning alright but its not about 2-stroke estart!
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Thats funny! The founding fathers are groaning alright but its not about 2-stroke estart!
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They will sell every one of them that they make, but for the $500 extra that it costs, the weight and the general ugliness of it, I will kick start my 2011 EC250.
I agree Scotty!
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