Eectric starter 2018?s..

[thumperrider1]

Thanks for the pics! Going to have to do that to mine next.

[Gibnut]

Mine was having a little trouble starting in gear on hills after stalling - spinning but not starting - so last night I put in a Skyrich/SSB 220cca battery & ran a dedicated earth from the starter mount to the battery -ive terminal.

[Gibnut]

Originally Posted by Gibnut

Mine was having a little trouble starting in gear on hills after stalling - spinning but not starting - so last night I put in a Skyrich/SSB 220cca battery & ran a dedicated earth from the starter mount to the battery -ive terminal.

Starter worked super-strong in gear on hills today - appears to be fixed.

How good is the suspension on these bikes? Superb.

[400exc]

So it is seeming that the starter cable upgrade, battery 220 cca upgrade and possibly the CDI re-map is fixing the problem. Is the e-start button now starting the bikes when cold or are you using the kick starter for the initial start and the e-start button for subsequent starts?

[memphis2857]

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[Fieds83]

Hey guys, picked my bike up 2 days ago. I had the dealer fit the upgraded + from battery to relay and the earth cable from battery to engine prior to pickup. They removed the original earth cable all together. They also fitted a brand new lithium ion battery off their shelf rated at 140cca. I got maybe 5 or 6 starts out of this setup before i just got the click. After half hour ride off the kickstart there was enough power to turn the engine over but not fire....

Is anone running a heavier gauge + wire from relay to starter?

Not to mention the headgadsket has a slight weep, it has been suggested to me that i should flush the coolant and switch to a low glycol coolant as the high glycol coolant can bypass the o ring.....

May experiment over the weekend.

[Keg]

Kick it cold like recommended and starting won?t be a problem after that.

Check the coolant hoses. Or get a shop pressure test the system. Glycol won?t effect a viton oring.

[Fieds83]

Originally Posted by Keg

Kick it cold like recommended and starting won?t be a problem after that.

Check the coolant hoses. Or get a shop pressure test the system. Glycol won?t effect a viton oring.

Cheers for the reply. Just waiting on my trickle charger to rock up so i can get a full charge back into it. I want to refit the original earth as well as the replacement/additional one supplied by GasGas. I will make sure not to use the starter when cold from now on and see how it goes.
Will go over the hoses again tomorrow. didnt see anything obvious today but will make sure everthing is tight and give her another run.

[Doc Brown]

If you use a trickle charger or a charger with a de-sulfatimg function you'll kill your battery instantly.

However, today I installed a new, much thicker positive wire between battery and starter relay. I already installed a thicker negative wire from battery to frame and between ignition coil and starter bracket.

Nothing changed. Today I borrowed a power package, removed the battery and used the quick start power package, a pro device with which you can start a Tiger tank after its been parked for 40 years. You can imagine how surprised I was that it did exactly the same as with a fully loaded OEM or Shido YTZS7 battery. It hesitated, youst a knock from the starter motor, then the whining sound. Second attempt and it immediately started.

I re-charged the OEM and the Shido batteries with a special LiIon charger and tested again. Engine cold, first attempt just a clattering noise, then the whining sound. Second attempt it turned over immediately. I then made an acid test and started while depressing the kill button.
Both batteries turned the engine over nice and powerful for over 7 seconds before they got a bit slower. The Shido has a bit more power though.

However, I have no clue what is the cause but I know its not the battery. The same problem appeared with the quick start power pack and this unit is a strong beast.

Its not the relay, its not the wires and its not the battery. I am confused. And I am even more confused as it starts much better once the engine is fully warmed up.

I dont think its the well known KTM problem of a too weak starter. It must be something mechanical inside the starter gear, bendix etc. My dealer is also confused and doesnt know the cause...

[memphis2857]

Try this: while the bike is cranking, press and hold the kill switch for 1 second and then let off. I’ve seen several orange and whit bikes with this problem and when I first got my 18 GG the trick above would make it start nearly every time.


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