I love my 2 stroke but. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[barossi73]

The oldschool 4t were bulletproof.it all went wrong when they tuned them so hard in an effort to catch the 2t's!
Imo...
It drove the cost up,and the noise level up,both bad for a sport that should be relatively cheap and accessible,and also contributed to a decline in places to ride.(The huge gains in weight reduction and hp are welcome tho)

[roostafish]

If you want to keep the bike you have, there are ways to help it feel more planted. First make sure your suspension is set up correctly, and second, get a set of Bib Mousse inserts. Or if you don't want to drop that much cash, get only the front mousse. It will help a lot. It won't become a four stroke, but it will improve your ride and give you confidence.


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[firffighter]

I agree with Mike. If you keep it, there's certainly things that will improve the stability.

The Mousse would be a good choice as would a Tubliss. A quick little vid to demonstrate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsuY0qVL2Q

As I mentioned before, I believe a stabilizer is a must on a small 2-stroke if you ride where there's lots of roots and rocks. It helps significantly.

Many have mentioned getting your suspension set up correctly. Simply ensuring your sag is set correctly and setting your rebound and compression to factory settings will give you a baseline of how your suspension should perform. Tweaking the clickers from there will reveal some improvements. I'm not a big fan of a revalve by a suspension shop, but making sure your suspension is serviced with good fresh fluids is key.

[cvl05]

I'd be more inclined to say some bike setup and maybe different tires and tube or moose. then just learn to adapt to the bike, I've owned at one point a KTM200,250,300 & 450 and switched between them depending on where I rode no problems, the 200 was a little skittish on loose rocks compared to others but turned like a jack rabbit. Tires are huge on small 2t, no Maxis LOL.

[mwinschel]

Originally Posted by Tbucket

I love my 2 stroke but I miss the planted feeling of the 4 stroke. I currently ride a 200, I don't know if it's the nature of the beast but I would like to get some input from you guys. Will a 300 feel as planted as a 4 stroke ?
Any information or points of view would be appreciated.

After my last three days of riding this week I wanted to come back to this forum post and pass on my experiences. Recent upgrades to my bike prior to these three days of riding include a lectron carb, two goldentyres (230 rear and 216AA fatty up front) with a Tubliss system on both front/rear. I can honestly say that the combination of these three (not sure what to credit where) but my 2011 gasgas 200 is the most planted bike I have ever owned. Rode in a mix of sand, hard pack, snotty mud, roots and rocks over the last week. Rode with others on Kato300s that looked like they were ice skating at times in snot. I dropped my pressure on the front and rear to see how they handled and could actually could not find a point that I lost traction. Zero headshake and the most surefooted ride I have ever had. I am having problems putting the bike down, it is hands down that much fun. I am guessing that the tires are the largest impact followed by the tubliss, however the lectron has made the bikes power almost completely linear (like my 350 with a little less lower end). I spent three days pushing my bike to points I would have NEVER tried before and only had one problem pushing through a sandberm at > 2x any previously attempted speeds. I would at least give the tires a try. Others have commented in a sticky somewhere on going light on rear sag which my base setup was done. My KTMs were very sensitive to sag, however I have not felt the need to futz with my GG sag beyond initial setup.

[compmoto]

Originally Posted by hamilton

If planted is what your after, test ride a 12 or newer.
You won't be disappointed.

I used the 2010 300 for a "demo" ride
it was a great bike
I also had a 2000 EC200, another great bike, but different power... I rode it on Budds Creek track a couple times...
I'm about to take delivery of 2015 EC125
I doubt ANY GasGas chassis is unmanageable
Do your suspension, and ride that puppy !

[Zman]

I agree that chassis set up will help the overall feel significantly. Other options include a 236 big bore kit that adds more power across the board or replacing your engine with a 250 or 300 engine.

[cvl05]

I recently turned a riding buddy on to T Buckets 11 ec200, He was on a 300 pumkin and wanted to try something different without spending ten grand. We took delivery of the ec200 earlier this week and set it up and went riding. WOW, nice setup, this bike is on railz in tight woods. Planted as any bike I've ever rode. My friend was ear to ear smiles. Guess we have a new KTM/GG convert. YAY!!! Bad news is now I want another 200 Been ten years ago I had my last 200.

[Tbucket]

I am glad he is happy. Super nice bike he won't be disappointed.
Thank you. It was a pleasure dealing with Scott.