Studs for snow/ice tires

[JTT]

Originally Posted by Berkyboy

Don't forget that you can maintain (replace or reuse) these studs as you need to.

That's if they stay in. I can see tearing them out of the tire being a possible problem...no reusing if they're scattered over the trail.

I use 1.5" screws in my ice tires, only on clean ice (no trails, or even pushing the bike across grass) and still loose studs pretty regular. They tear our or just break off after a while. I just can't imagine these ones staying put for long.

[Berkyboy]

Another thing to consider is the Best Grips studs give the user some flexability. A lot of winter riders like to use their own "patterns" and the screw type studs give them that option.

Like I said in my opinion the Trelleborg's are the best period.

We're still going to put together a set and see how they work.

My gut feeling is that they'll work fine for the guy on a budget. For me I'd spend the extra hundred bucks or so and go with the Trelles'.

[MattR]

Originally Posted by Berkyboy

My gut feeling is that they'll work fine for the guy on a budget. For me I'd spend the extra hundred bucks or so and go with the Trelles'.

That's the point of my previous post. At $1.19 per stud, there is no cost reduction for the "budget buyer" (me). If the cost was somewhere around $0.50 per stud, it would put investment between the Kold Kutters and Trelleborgs. Right now, they would be the same price as Trelleborgs/Michelins.

Plus, I sure there will be a few lost studs like JTT mentioned. I don't feel like throwing a bunch of dollar bills off my back tire as I ride down the trail.

Sorry for the rant... I was interested to try these out. But for the budget buyer like me, Kold Kutters will be my only option now.

[jeffd]

There seems to be a discrepency about how many "studs" are needed per tire. I found one reference on the website showing you needed 80 minimum for winter and 25 worked well in summer time - for slick hills, etc.

He should sell in boxes of 250 and bring the price down a tad.

jeff

[Adrian]

I still think the ones W.E.R. are selling protrude too far. I want something with studs more like a studded snow tire. What are the Trelleborg's like in the area of stud length?

[cladoo]

I can't remember where I've seen them but Michelin makes some studded tires also and the price is near the same as Trelleborg. The guys here that use them say they are better the the Trellies. I agree that the Best Grip studs are way too pricey.

[tm_enduro]

Michelin does make a studded tire, but for what it's worth, Michelin sponsored Anders Eriksson uses the screw in type shown in the photos above.

What compound of tires are best to put studs into? I find that the normally squirmy S-12 (still my favorite all around tire), is an incredible snow / ice tire as the rubber only gets slightly firmer when frozen, but I fear that screws would pull out leaving a shreaded tire. How about the enduro comp 4, big spaces with firm base compound and not so much height (tall knobs or carcas) that the knobs will become flexible or that the studs will hit the fenders when bottoming the suspension?