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Old 12-03-2011, 02:44 AM
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Elite riders had to run 450's last year, amateurs could run up to 690. This year everyone has to be on a 450.

Everyone limited to 3 engines, time penalties for each change of engine for the elite riders, euro ($) penalties for the rest.
Or that's what the rules say at the moment of course the ASO make the rules up as they go along, of if your French they don't apply at all!


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Old 12-03-2011, 08:21 AM
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http://www.gasgasmotos.es/en/news/22...acing-the.html

I don't get it. It's a Yamaha with gasgas stickers, what gives?
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:45 AM
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Good eye. it IS a yamaha!

http://www.yamaha-motorcycles.org/images/2009WR450F.jpg

I hadn't paid much attention to Yamahas since I sold our TTR125 (great bike, by the way), but the bikes are the same.

Wow. Another illusion shattered.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:45 AM
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WTF?? I wonder if GG is buying more stuff from them than the 250 mill?? at least for the dakar rally stuff.. it would make sense as all the tanks fairings etc can be bought instead of fabricated special.. just kind of sad its not a real gasgas..
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:23 PM
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It is exciting how many different teams and brands are involved now though. In the past it seemed to be a KTM only affair.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:12 AM
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This is a pretty stupid business move. Nothing says "our 450 is a piece of shit, we don't think it will even finish, don't buy it" like putting your bike company stickers on another brands bike and pretending like it's yours with a smile on your face. Kind of makes it hard for a GasGas guy to get enthusiastic about the Dakar attempt.

What is wrong with the real Dakar bike that they have????
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:43 AM
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One thought is that there is some financial arrangement between GasGas and Yamaha. Did Yamaha buy part of GG? How is GG paying for development of the new 2012s? Money's tight in Europe. They have to finance it some way.

Who knows. I would have never noticed that it was a yamaha. GasGas (the poster, not the company) picked up on it right away.
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Old 12-05-2011, 08:33 AM
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Money is likely indirectly coming from IMF bailouts of the failing socialist govts, a good deal of which ultimately comes from us, the US taxpayer! Look at all these small mfgs popping up and resurecting themselves like Jotsgas and Ossa. In this economy? Not without govt subsidies. Maybe a new Greek bike wil show up soon, but you would have to retire it early and make payments for life.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:35 AM
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Why even bother with Dakar if you are not using your own bike?
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Maybe a new Greek bike will show up soon, but you would have to retire it early and make payments for life.



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