Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > Classified Advertisements > "Wanted to Buy" & "Want To Trade"

"Wanted to Buy" & "Want To Trade" Bikes or Parts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-22-2017, 05:36 PM
Jakobi's Avatar
Jakobi Jakobi is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,994
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PEB View Post
The 07 setup I have has what looks like 11 to me on it.
Stamped around the back, beside where the line connects?


Reply With Quote


  #12  
Old 11-22-2017, 07:00 PM
PEB PEB is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,152
Default

Yes right where you described
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-23-2017, 02:19 AM
(F5)'s Avatar
(F5) (F5) is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington New Zealand
Posts: 2,062
Default

Typically 11,12 or 1\2"(12.45)mm. Its all about leverage. Smaller bore means more leverage but more travel. Radial are larger bore but lever acts on it differently. .

There is a sweet spot for caliper to mc ratio.

Try this, there is a sweet spot for lever position. Your hand works best at some point. I've only just realised I had it out too far. But then again I'd rebuilt the mc and it had less travel to it. So what was best compromise before was clumsy later.
__________________
'07 EC300 GG
'14 TXT250 GG
'? 496 CPI Cheetah RZ/RGV hybrid
'22 765 Street Triple RS
'21 XTrainer
'69 Stinger T125 Suzuki
'23 TRS 250RR (it's a Trials thing)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-23-2017, 04:20 PM
chopper chopper is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 93
Default

I think that the main performance difference between your GG and the CR250 is the rotor diameter, GG is 260mm whereas the Honda is 240mm. I would first try an oversized rotor ,I think then that you'll find it similar. Next try a braided brake line, at that point you'll have the same mc, line, caliper, and rotor on both bikes. If you are still not satisfied then you can swap to the 07-present CRF 250/450R only (not 250/450X or 07 cr125/250) front mc which has an improved feel at the lever compared to the earlier unit. From what I can tell the GG mc is the same as the pre 2007 Honda models so if you were to make all of the suggested changes you could obtain greater performance from the Honda vs the GG.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-24-2017, 12:14 AM
(F5)'s Avatar
(F5) (F5) is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington New Zealand
Posts: 2,062
Default

Yup. Again leverage. Bigger rotor means longer arm you can pull up the hub with.
__________________
'07 EC300 GG
'14 TXT250 GG
'? 496 CPI Cheetah RZ/RGV hybrid
'22 765 Street Triple RS
'21 XTrainer
'69 Stinger T125 Suzuki
'23 TRS 250RR (it's a Trials thing)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-24-2017, 12:51 PM
Moto7man Moto7man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murfreesboro,Tennessee
Posts: 2,537
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chopper View Post
I think that the main performance difference between your GG and the CR250 is the rotor diameter, GG is 260mm whereas the Honda is 240mm. I would first try an oversized rotor ,I think then that you'll find it similar. Next try a braided brake line, at that point you'll have the same mc, line, caliper, and rotor on both bikes. If you are still not satisfied then you can swap to the 07-present CRF 250/450R only (not 250/450X or 07 cr125/250) front mc which has an improved feel at the lever compared to the earlier unit. From what I can tell the GG mc is the same as the pre 2007 Honda models so if you were to make all of the suggested changes you could obtain greater performance from the Honda vs the GG.
I already installed a 260mm Wave Rotor and a braided line.Its good now, strong and progressive but it won't lock up the front wheel under a load like my GG.
__________________
2011 GG EC 300E, 1994 CR 250R, 1984 RM 250 E, 2022 Ranger 300

"If you stop eating donuts you will live 3 years longer. It's just 3 more years that you want a donut."
―Comedian Lewis Black

"I think best when I have a wrench in my hands." Soichiro Honda

"Dreams are messages from the deep."
-Unknown Sardaukar
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-24-2017, 02:03 PM
(F5)'s Avatar
(F5) (F5) is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington New Zealand
Posts: 2,062
Default

Try a stick in the spokes
__________________
'07 EC300 GG
'14 TXT250 GG
'? 496 CPI Cheetah RZ/RGV hybrid
'22 765 Street Triple RS
'21 XTrainer
'69 Stinger T125 Suzuki
'23 TRS 250RR (it's a Trials thing)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-25-2017, 11:15 AM
Moto7man Moto7man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murfreesboro,Tennessee
Posts: 2,537
Default

Thanks for all posts! I have been xmas shopping and doing the holiday thing so I haven't had time to read them all. I'll try to look them over and post an update in a few days,
__________________
2011 GG EC 300E, 1994 CR 250R, 1984 RM 250 E, 2022 Ranger 300

"If you stop eating donuts you will live 3 years longer. It's just 3 more years that you want a donut."
―Comedian Lewis Black

"I think best when I have a wrench in my hands." Soichiro Honda

"Dreams are messages from the deep."
-Unknown Sardaukar
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-26-2017, 11:11 AM
Moto7man Moto7man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murfreesboro,Tennessee
Posts: 2,537
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chopper View Post
I think that the main performance difference between your GG and the CR250 is the rotor diameter, GG is 260mm whereas the Honda is 240mm. I would first try an oversized rotor ,I think then that you'll find it similar. Next try a braided brake line, at that point you'll have the same mc, line, caliper, and rotor on both bikes. If you are still not satisfied then you can swap to the 07-present CRF 250/450R only (not 250/450X or 07 cr125/250) front mc which has an improved feel at the lever compared to the earlier unit. From what I can tell the GG mc is the same as the pre 2007 Honda models so if you were to make all of the suggested changes you could obtain greater performance from the Honda vs the GG.
My bad, I think you are right. I installed a Braking Wave Rotor HO09FID. I checked the rotor this morning it is 240mm not 260mm, so that was my bad.
__________________
2011 GG EC 300E, 1994 CR 250R, 1984 RM 250 E, 2022 Ranger 300

"If you stop eating donuts you will live 3 years longer. It's just 3 more years that you want a donut."
―Comedian Lewis Black

"I think best when I have a wrench in my hands." Soichiro Honda

"Dreams are messages from the deep."
-Unknown Sardaukar
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-11-2018, 05:34 PM
Moto7man Moto7man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murfreesboro,Tennessee
Posts: 2,537
Default

I just installed a Nissin front master cylinder from a 2011 GG on my Honda. BIG DIFFERENCE. Just a lot more feel and power. I will give her a test ride and post an update.
__________________
2011 GG EC 300E, 1994 CR 250R, 1984 RM 250 E, 2022 Ranger 300

"If you stop eating donuts you will live 3 years longer. It's just 3 more years that you want a donut."
―Comedian Lewis Black

"I think best when I have a wrench in my hands." Soichiro Honda

"Dreams are messages from the deep."
-Unknown Sardaukar
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crossover Parts ID # 4 Front & Rear 2003 EC 300 Brake Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit(s) tprnottp Enduro Chassis & Body 1 03-27-2017 05:50 PM
Nissin Back Brake Master cylinder seal kit smithopolis Enduro Chassis & Body 5 08-17-2015 09:45 AM
WTB-Front Brake Master Cylinder Sight Glass Needed GasGasDreamer "Wanted to Buy" & "Want To Trade" 3 03-03-2015 11:11 AM
Front brake master cylinder gassergrant Enduro Chassis & Body 2 09-15-2013 03:31 PM
Master Cylinder Front Brake Rebuild - Other Brand kits? jdalton1 Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 5 03-23-2013 03:07 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org