Studs for snow/ice tires

[MattR]

I came across a cool product for studding your tires. These were shown in the new Trail Rider magazine and being sold by WER Products. I'm not sure on the cost of these, but thought I would pass the info along.

These are screw-in studs that look like the carbide tip rivets on Trelleborgs. There are some good photos on this site of tire setups. The 1700 style is recommended for front tires and 1800 style is recommended for rear tires. They recommend between 250-350 studs per tire.

Here is the website.
http://www.best-grip.com/eng/

Here is the 1700 style stud:



Here is an example after installation:

[Boomhauer]

Originally Posted by MattR

I came across a cool product for studding your tires. These were shown in the new Trail Rider magazine and being sold by WER Products. I'm not sure on the cost of these, but thought I would pass the info along.

These are screw-in studs that look like the carbide tip rivets on Trelleborgs. There are some good photos on this site of tire setups. The 1700 style is recommended for front tires and 1800 style is recommended for rear tires. They recommend between 250-350 studs per tire.

Here is the website.
http://www.best-grip.com/eng/

Here is the 1700 style stud:



Here is an example after installation:

Traitor! I would not buy anything you say is good now!

[MattR]

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

Traitor! I would not buy anything you say is good now!

I did not say these were KTM studs.

FYI to the other folks here... Robby caught lurking over on KTMTalk.

[Boomhauer]

To bad we don't get ice here in Houston. I would hate to get run over by somebody that has those on their tires.

[bobr]

WOW! nice find! we researched installing studs. it is a difficult process at best. these look like they screw right in. we could certainly use them up here. thanks.

[Adrian]

I called w.e.r.bout these. Drew said that the only ones he is going to carry protrude 6 to 7 mm out of the tire. I would rather have the ones that protrude around 3mm. it just seems to me that the further they stick out the more easily they would get ripped out in the conditions that I ride. He also said the price is $119 for 100 of them. If it takes 500 of them to do 2 tires that is a lot of money. If they had the ones that I wanted I would have probably bought a coulpe packs. I'm tired of frozen ground keeping me from riding. I hate winter!!!

[MattR]

Originally Posted by Adrian

...He also said the price is $119 for 100 of them. If it takes 500 of them to do 2 tires that is a lot of money.

Thanks for the info. At $1+ per stud... that is just too much money. To do them right, you might as well buy trelleborg tires at $500-$600 per set.

[Brian VT]

Originally Posted by MattR

Thanks for the info. At $1+ per stud... that is just too much money. To do them right, you might as well buy trelleborg tires at $500-$600 per set.

I bought the Michelins and they were well under $500. Not sure how much of a deal I got, but the tires have been great. I chose the medium length spikes in the back, long in the front.

[Berkyboy]

I talked to Drew and we discussed using around 175 on the front and 225 on the rear.

Don't forget that you can maintain (replace or reuse) these studs as you need to. Doing this with Trelleborgs isn't an option.

In my opinion Trelleborgs are the best winter studded tire period. They are expensive but nothing compares to them.

We are in the process of putting together a set of "Best Grip" studded tires to compare to Trelleborg I'll let you know how they compare.

[MattR]

Steve,

Even with the quantities you mentioned (175 & 225), the costs are still too high in my opinion to justify the purchase. In my opinion, the cost of Best Grips should not be higher than $0.50 each. Here is a comparison with a new set of tires mounted with Kold Kutters and Best Grips. To be fair, I even "doubled" the Kold Kutter studs like I would mount them.

With Kold Kutter Studs (using twice the studs):
Front = 350*$0.12 ea = $42
Rear = 450*$0.12 ea = $54
Total = $96 (studs only)
Add new tires = $120 (assume $60 ea)
Grand Total = $216 + labor to install.

With Best Grip Studs (Current Price):
Front = 175*$1.19 ea = $208.25
Rear = 225*$1.19 ea = $267.75
Total = $476 (studs only)
Add new tires = $120 (assume $60 ea)
Grand Total = $596 + labor to install.

With Best Grip Studs (My Recommended Price):
Front = 175*$0.50 ea = $87.50
Rear = 225*$0.50 ea = $112.50
Total = $200 (studs only)
Add new tires = $120 (assume $60 ea)
Grand Total = $320 + labor to install.