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Old 04-18-2017, 06:32 AM
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I have had excellent work done by Eric Gorr.

http://www.eric-gorr.com/index.php/s...troke-services

According to his web site his prices look a bit lower than RB as well.


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Eric has some books out worth a read seemed like a great guy online back near turn of the century. Glad to hear he's still going.
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And I have seen eric gorr destroy a cylinder and the power valves that went with it... .

Another member here had a very bad experience a few years back...

Buyer beware..

Some have said good things of him but I have seen some horrid work... And it was very,very bad...

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And I have seen eric gorr destroy a cylinder and the power valves that went with it... .

Another member here had a very bad experience a few years back...

Buyer beware..

Some have said good things of him but I have seen some horrid work... And it was very,very bad...

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I didn't want to be the one who raised this as i have never had any dealing with him, but have seen some negative posts on the internet over the years so approach with caution.
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I decided to pull my Christini 300 AWD apart solely to send my head and carb to R&B to have them modded. Nothing wrong with the bike. 200 miles on a 2015 engine.
I did some emailing back and fourth with Ron setting everything up.
Did all the squish test. got everything boxed up and ready to ship.
Unfortunately Ron tells me they are going on vacation and will not be back to the shop till April 20th.
That's fair enough. Everyone needs a vacation.
So a few days later I get an email out of the blue informing me that they will no longer be doing ANY Gas Gas mods.
When I asked why and if I could still get the carb modified I was not given a clear answer and was told I would not get an answer till they got back from vacation.
WTF???
It seems a bit strange from a business point of view to drop a brand when i assume all the hard work has already been done. he has the knowledge and has done the calcs and measurements so surely it is as much work to do a gg squish head mod as it is to any other brand of bike, or am i missing something on the technical aspect of this?

Perhaps tomorrow will show it to be incorrect?
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:06 AM
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And I have seen eric gorr destroy a cylinder and the power valves that went with it... .

Another member here had a very bad experience a few years back...

Buyer beware..

Some have said good things of him but I have seen some horrid work... And it was very,very bad...

jeff
I am not trying to defend Eric in anyway but every engine builder that builds a lot of engines is going to have a screw up every once in a while. I am sure Eric has guys working for him and if they make a mistake and dont say anything some thing bad is going to happen. Eric makes a living building engines and if he built Junk he would not be in business any more.

I personally have seen screw up's from Hooper racing who builds race snowmobile engines. I had a buddy last year who's piston hit the head because the bore diameter of the head was 2mm less than the actual bore. He sent the heads back to him to be re cut and came back the same with 2mm less diameter than the bore. The third time was the charm and he got it right.

Mistakes get made even by the pro's. Any time you have engine work done pay attention to what they did at assemble to make sure they did not make a mistake. Any reputable shop will stand behind there work.
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I am not trying to defend Eric in anyway but every engine builder that builds a lot of engines is going to have a screw up every once in a while. I am sure Eric has guys working for him and if they make a mistake and dont say anything some thing bad is going to happen. Eric makes a living building engines and if he built Junk he would not be in business any more.

I personally have seen screw up's from Hooper racing who builds race snowmobile engines. I had a buddy last year who's piston hit the head because the bore diameter of the head was 2mm less than the actual bore. He sent the heads back to him to be re cut and came back the same with 2mm less diameter than the bore. The third time was the charm and he got it right.

Mistakes get made even by the pro's. Any time you have engine work done pay attention to what they did at assemble to make sure they did not make a mistake. Any reputable shop will stand behind there work.
That is very sound and realistic advice!
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I am not trying to defend Eric in anyway but every engine builder that builds a lot of engines is going to have a screw up every once in a while. I am sure Eric has guys working for him and if they make a mistake and dont say anything some thing bad is going to happen. Eric makes a living building engines and if he built Junk he would not be in business any more.

I personally have seen screw up's from Hooper racing who builds race snowmobile engines. I had a buddy last year who's piston hit the head because the bore diameter of the head was 2mm less than the actual bore. He sent the heads back to him to be re cut and came back the same with 2mm less diameter than the bore. The third time was the charm and he got it right.

Mistakes get made even by the pro's. Any time you have engine work done pay attention to what they did at assemble to make sure they did not make a mistake. Any reputable shop will stand behind there work.
It went beyond reasonable. Way beyond.

In the case that I am aware of, it took more than a reasonable amount of effort to get Eric Gorr to stand behind his work. e.g. he wouldn't pick up the phone until block caller id was used when calling. To a reasonable person, it would appear that he wasn't picking up the phone because he didn't want to deal with it or stand behind his work.

A member here sent Eric Gorr a motor for rebuild a few years back. When it wasn't turned around in a timely manner - I don't think it is an understatement to say that this customer was berated and denigrated by Eric Gorr. This is usually not a good way to build trust and goodwill with your client base.

And yes, everybody makes mistakes - it happens. But in this case, given the situation, I feel a definite need to warn people.

I'll give Ron a call when he gets back from his vacation. Web page says he is celebrating his 69th birthday. Maybe he just wants to scale things back...

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Screw ups or no. Eric Gorr will never see any of my money. When I built my KLX motor I contacted him and long story short, his customer service sucks. I don't care how good a builder you are.

While I do think his quality took a bit of a dive when he started hiring people, vs doing the work himself. But that was several years ago. There are many happy customers. I just will not be one.
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As far as RB goes, I, and everyone that I am aware of, has had customer service so good that it is almost surreal, combined with turn around and shipping times so fast it doesn't seem possible.

Seems odd to drop services for just one make, I wonder what the reasoning could be behind that?
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