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KTM Pampera
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looks very promising....I wouldn't buy one but I know several buddies that might, non racer/entry level types.
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It looks more like a copy of the T-Ride.
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04 Montesa 315R, 07 EC300, 21 KTM Erzberg 300, 21 Sherco 300 SEF-F, 23 KTM 690, 23 Rieju Mr Pro 300 |
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http://www.trialmag.net/trialmag/art...NEW+OSSA+EXPLO
This one looks gooood though & it's Spanish...
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Why can't KTM or Gas Gas do this? http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/1...-ossa-tr-280i/
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04 Montesa 315R, 07 EC300, 21 KTM Erzberg 300, 21 Sherco 300 SEF-F, 23 KTM 690, 23 Rieju Mr Pro 300 |
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No way that KTM will be as light as the 2 stroke GasGas Pampera. The beauty of the Pampera is that an average, casual riding woman can handle it in all aspects of trail riding, including picking it up and starting it. I know my wife has one, and its perfect for her.
The Ossa looks a lot more trials like, much smaller front brake, etc. The 280i motor is cool, but just FI not DI. Still, I REALLY like the reverse cyl design on a two stroke, and the option for a rear tucked in pipe it provides. For a woods bike this would be great. You wouldn't have the heat issues like on a 4stroke with this design (Cannondale, Berg). The pipe would be high but its light, and could be made even lighter being its not exposed to the trail. A case reed design would keep the carb low. A DI design would also keep the heavier head components lower. Time to think out of the box, GG. |
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The problem with the Pampera, at least the older ones, is the frame was so bad you couldn't even ride it a half dozen times off road without failures. My wife finally gave up on hers and is riding a KTM 200.
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04 Montesa 315R, 07 EC300, 21 KTM Erzberg 300, 21 Sherco 300 SEF-F, 23 KTM 690, 23 Rieju Mr Pro 300 |
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At 220lbs, I don't see what the point of the KTM is. It's a 4-stroke with trials tires. Whoopee!
On the other hand, that Ossa would be a hoot to toss around. It's claimed dry weight is 163lbs! |
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There is one thing the new Ossa and the Freeride will have in common - both will feel underpowered when ridden at trail speeds. I'm not knocking the new Ossa or the 2stroke Pampera but they were not designed for trail riding they were designed for trials. I love trials and have a trials bike myself but it is a poor mount for normal trail riding. IMO |
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I think the Freeride market is too narrowly focused. I like the idea of an entry level enduro bike but this KTM still has a complex and expensive 4stroke engine and the overall size of the bike will be too big for many entry level riders. Now imagine the Freeride with the smaller, cheaper, and much simpler GG 4stroke side valve engine. The compact size of the side valve engine would allow for a much lower seat height. The frame could be designed with two places to mount the sub frame so seat height could be changed. The fork top clamp could be made to be reversible thereby allowing the forks to be moved up or down over a wider range. Just think how big the market would be for a 210 pound enduro bike that has an adjustable seat height of 33-36 inches and is cheap, reliable, and easy to work on.
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