Your thoughts on lowering my pegs

[husley]

Me 6'2". Slow B rider, competitive Trials background, stand 90% sit 10%

2010 300ec. OEM seat, GPR sub mount, tall bars.

A few years ago I made the OEM peg mod in which the pegs are moved lower, but also back. This mod along with the bars and sub mount stabilizer made the bike feel much less cramped.

I just picked up an almost-new 2009 200 ec.
2009 200ec. OEM seat, GPR sub mount, OEM bars, non-modified OEM pegs

I have only got to ride my new 200 for about one hour but it was immediately clear that the 200 turns SO MUCH easier than my 300. I don't think it necessarily turns any tighter/smaller radius but it is just so much more nimble and ready to turn. Immediately I noticed that the pegs felt higher and forward relative to my 300. I also noticed that my body in general was more forward (I was looking down at the front fender more than the 300).

I do not believe there is a huge difference in fork tube height and/or total distance between wheel distances (between axles)

I realize the 09' and 10' have different frames but I would think the newer frame would be more nimble...not the opposite

My question is:

Did moving my pegs down AND BACK cause my 300 to handle differently/ poorly and be less nimble?


Thanks, fight for your rights and stay safe,

J

[Neil E.]

Do you use bar risers? I found they let me stay further back on the bike and the steering is less nimble as a result. I have also lowered my pegs for more room and they may be further back as well. Combined with the risers I know the bike has lost some nimbleness. It's not a big deal at the speeds I ride, but I'm sure my riding takes more effort as a result of the changes.

There's a reason the fast guys are always in attack position (up over the bars).

[Jakobi]

I'm going on out a limb and say there is also a good chance that the smaller engine simply feels more nimble due to having less inertia and less grunt trying to stand it up when you open the throttle. Same bike, different top end, I definitely notice the 250 feels like its more willing to change direction than the 300.

Of course there are also a whole load of differences from suspension damping both ends, linkage ratios (any changes with the 09/10 frame), tyre sizes and brands - don't under estimate this one!, and even if they are sprung the same as eachother there is usually some variance from one spring to the next.

[husley]

Yes, the 300 has bar risers/sub mount stabilizer but so does the 200.....although I haven't mounted the stabilizer (yet) on the 200.

I agree about the 300 having more rotating mass/inertia and at least in theory this should make the bike less willing to accelerate in a different direction (turn).

Lots to consider.

Thanks!