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Old 04-16-2009, 06:28 AM
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Default Suspension Database...Could you please add your setup?

Hey guys,
After scolling through pages and pages of threads for certain suspension settings I thought it may be benificial to start up a database on suspension.
I am not sure how well this will work but time and entries will tell.
There is so much involved and no doubt I will overlook something so if you think of anything else let me know.

I know everyone i sdifferent and we all like different settings but if we all have our settings in one place and say exactly what has been done at least we have a starting point for someone to look at with regards to weights ,setups etc.

Lets see how it goes.

I will insert mine after this trip I am about to go on as they will probably be different to what they are now.

All you need to do is copy the list below, ( sorry about the length), and then paste it into your reply.
Hopefully this will help someone in the future...


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Weight of Rider =
Year of bike =
Type of bike =
Type of Forks =
Type of Shocks =
Fork spring rate =
Shock spring rate =

Bike and Rider Sag Settings:
Front bike sag (without rider) =
Front rider sag =
Rear bike sag (without rider) =
Rear rider sag =

All Clicker settings are from fully wound clockwise...
Fork rebound clicker =
Fork Compression clicker =
Fork/Shock Valving (Stock or Revalved) =
Shock (high speed..outer dial) setting =
Shock (low speed ..inner screw) setting =
Shock rebound( linkage screw) setting =

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) =
Fork oil air gap( to top of fork) =
New or old oil (recently changed??) =

Results :
Type of riding you do =
How you like your suspension to feel =
Fast or slow rider (be honest) =

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Thanks again guys ,
I am not sure how to put this all in a database as the list is so long but we will see how we go.

Cheers Mark



Last edited by MattR; 04-16-2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Added sag settings to go with the spring rate information. Also, add valving type (stock or revalved).
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:40 AM
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Weight of rider: 175lbs
Bike: 2007 EC250 Six Days edition
Forks: Ohlins 48mm
Shock: Ohlins
Fork springs: 0.45
Shock spring: 5.6

Can't remember the rest of the settings right now, I'll check tonight.

I ride technical trails, grass track, ISDE style stuff, some motocross, pretty much everything. I like my suspension to feel solid. I prefer it to be a little harsh in order to maintain control. The faster I hit stuff, the better my suspension works (well, except at the desert 100 - I bottomed it out a few times down there).

I race the A class up here in Canada. Moving up to AA/Pro next year.
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:32 PM
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Weight of Rider = 165 lbs (naked), approx. 185 lbs with gear.
Year of bike = 2007
Type of bike = EC250
Type of Forks = Marzocchi
Type of Shocks = Sachs
Fork spring rate = 0.42 (stock)
Shock spring rate = 5.2 (stock)

Bike and Rider Sag Settings:
Front bike sag (without rider) = 35mm
Front rider sag = 50mm sitting, 58mm standing
Rear bike sag (without rider) = 49mm
Rear rider sag = 110mm sitting, 105mm standing

All Clicker settings are from fully wound clockwise...
Fork rebound clicker = 6 clicks out
Fork Compression clicker = 6 clicks out
Fork/Shock Valving (stock or revalved) = Revalved by Hall's Cycle for tight woods riding.
Shock (high speed..outer dial) setting = 6 clicks out
Shock (low speed ..inner screw) setting = 10 clicks out
Shock rebound( linkage screw) setting = 11 clicks out

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) = Spectro 5wt.
Fork oil air gap( to top of fork) = 100 mm
New or old oil (recently changed??) = New, recently changed.

Results :
Type of riding you do = Michigan singletrack, tight woods with some open whoop sections. Soil varies from sand, medium sized rocks, tree roots, and dirt/mud.
How you like your suspension to feel = Soft to soak up the rocks & roots. Need decent bottom resistance for whoop section at speed. My suspension was revalved by previous owner. I would describe it as Soft and tend to increase clicker settings to compensate.
Fast or slow rider(be honest) = I would be a fast C-class or slower B-class rider by Michigan standards.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:37 AM
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Weight of Rider = 250 lb
Year of bike = 2004
Type of bike = EC200
Type of Forks = Marzocchi
Type of Shocks = Ohlins
Fork spring rate = 0.45
Shock spring rate = 5.7

Bike and Rider Sag Settings:
Front bike sag (without rider) =
Front rider sag =
Rear bike sag (without rider) = 30mm
Rear rider sag = 110mm

Fork rebound clicker = 10 from in
Fork Compression clicker = 5 from out
Fork/Shock Valving (Stock or Revalved) =
Shock compression setting = 2 from out
Shock rebound setting = 15 from in

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) = Putoline 7.5
Fork oil air gap (to top of fork) = 110mm
New or old oil (recently changed??) = New

Results :
Type of riding you do = Woods
How you like your suspension to feel = Compliant
Fast or slow rider (be honest) = Slow
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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Weight of Rider = 275
Year of bike = 2000
Type of bike = XC250
Type of Forks = WP 43's
Type of Shocks = Ohlins
Fork spring rate = .46
Shock spring rate = 5.8

Bike and Rider Sag Settings: don't remember, set it per GG/Ohlins recomendations, came out perfect with the stiffer springs for my weight.
Front bike sag (without rider) =
Front rider sag =
Rear bike sag (without rider) =
Rear rider sag =

All Clicker settings are from fully wound clockwise...
Fork rebound clicker = 14
Fork Compression clicker = 17
Fork/Shock Valving (Stock or Revalved) = both revalved by LTR
Shock (high speed..outer dial) setting = n/a
Shock (low speed ..inner screw) setting = 18
Shock rebound( linkage screw) setting = 18

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) = 7w Putoline
Fork oil air gap( to top of fork) = don't remeber, found on GGRC forum somewhere.
New or old oil (recently changed??) = broke in, almost service time.

Results :
Type of riding you do = mostly single track. Some desert.
How you like your suspension to feel = softer than this but... if riding aggresively this works very well for my weight as far as resisting bottoming and it actually becomes pretty plush at speed. It is almost uncomfortably stiff when sitting down trail riding over roots and rocks with slow riders.
Fast or slow rider (be honest) = compared to most riders on this site?? Slow. I consider myself medium.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:29 AM
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Weight of Rider = 210
Year of bike = 2001
Type of bike = XC250
Type of Forks = ohlins 46
Type of Shocks = Ohlins
Fork spring rate = .44
Shock spring rate = 5.6
Fork spring preload 10mm

Bike and Rider Sag Settings: 100mm dry.
Front bike sag (without rider) =
Front rider sag =
Rear bike sag (without rider) = within spec
Rear rider sag =

All Clicker settings are from fully wound clockwise...
Fork rebound clicker = 4
Fork Compression clicker = 8
Fork/Shock Valving (Stock
Shock (high speed..outer dial) setting = full open
Shock (low speed ..inner screw) setting = 8
Shock rebound( linkage screw) setting = 18

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) = 5 wt anything
Fork oil air gap( to top of fork) = 120 mm


Results :

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Old 05-21-2009, 06:38 AM
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Hi,
Here are my best settings with the stock valving.
Trouble is, each track needs it's own setting, and if it's dry and grippy or slow and slippery the clicks differ a lot. I'm about to start messing with revalving to see if the suspension can better stay up in the stroke, feel firmer overall but be ready to soak up big roots and rocks better.

Weight of Rider = 190 nekkid
Year of bike = 2007
Type of bike = EC300
Type of Forks = Zook 45's
Type of Shock = Sachs
Fork spring rate = .45 (up from .42 stock)
Shock spring rate = 5.2 (stock)

Bike and Rider Sag Settings:
Front bike sag (without rider) = ?
Front rider sag = ?
Rear bike sag (without rider) = prolly 2cm
Rear rider sag = 100mm (tried 105, sorry but it understeers terribly)

All Clicker settings are from fully wound clockwise...
Fork rebound clicker = 12
Fork Compression clicker = 15 (wet/slow/big rocks), 14 (dry/big rocks), 13 (dry/whoops), 8 (MX)
Fork/Shock Valving (Stock or Revalved) = stock
Shock (high speed..outer dial) setting = 1.5
Shock (low speed ..inner screw) setting = 9 (wet/slow/big rocks), 8 (dry/big rocks), 8 (dry/whoops), 3 (MX)
Shock rebound( linkage screw) setting = 20

Fork oil weight and brand (if known) = 5W Shell
Fork oil air gap( to top of fork) = 140mm
New or old oil (recently changed??) = new. Change about each 2 months.

Results :
Type of riding you do = 1st/2nd snot/slow rocks & roots, 2nd/3rd/4th dry rocks & sandy whoops, sandy MX tracks.
How you like your suspension to feel = 80% enduro, 20% MX. Firm and steady so it can handle grass tests, landing from MX jumps and ledges, confidence at speed. Needs to handle whoops and G-outs, needs to handle big rocks and roots at slow speeds.
Fast or slow rider (be honest) = advanced beginner, intermediate in a year or two.
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