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Old 03-06-2018, 09:13 PM
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:19 PM
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I'm interested how is the new Gasser in comparsion with ktm , beta and sherco ?


It’s better! Lol

I have a buddy with a 17 TX300 and another buddy with a 17 XCW250. The GasGas feels bigger and taller than both bikes. Seeing how all three bikes have WP frames that look identical to one another, I suspect the bigger feel comes from foot peg and triple clamp placement. My 18 turns better than both the Austrians and obviously the suspension is light years better than the AER (has del saggio inserts) and it’s WAY better than the XCW with full Kreft tunes xplor stuff. The Husky makes a little more power up top but won’t touch the 18 gasser in the bottom and midrange.

It’s hard to put into words just how good the 18 GasGas really is. Spring it for your weight, slight rejetting, and it’s ready to rip.


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Old 03-20-2018, 12:39 PM
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The stock AOSS fork (05 YZ fork) is better than full DS Spheres? Or are the GG forks AOS forks which is the same as what Yamaha calls the SSS?
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:18 PM
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You all throw a big sales pitch... but deep down I know it's true.

I've been avoiding the 18 big time.. until gibnut sells his!! hahah

I had a 2010 with Nambo/Cervantez spec (S3 heads, cylinder work, TTX both ends, ran with Smart Carb, Lectron, and Keihin at times).

IMO my 2013 250R with KYB SSS front end and head mod is a much nicer overall package, but I still have a few things I don't like about it.. mainly back end isn't very plush and is quite heavy if you have to lift it.. I can live with it though

The 18 has taken everything people identified in the 2013-2017 models and resolved or improved on them.. it has to be the better bike!
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:28 PM
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You all throw a big sales pitch... but deep down I know it's true.

I've been avoiding the 18 big time.. until gibnut sells his!! hahah

I had a 2010 with Nambo/Cervantez spec (S3 heads, cylinder work, TTX both ends, ran with Smart Carb, Lectron, and Keihin at times).

IMO my 2013 250R with KYB SSS front end and head mod is a much nicer overall package, but I still have a few things I don't like about it.. mainly back end isn't very plush and is quite heavy if you have to lift it.. I can live with it though

The 18 has taken everything people identified in the 2013-2017 models and resolved or improved on them.. it has to be the better bike!
I have a well set up 2011 250 with KYB suspension and a 18 250. In my opinion it's not even close. The 18 is light years better. I hate to say it but I like it more than my Beta 300 also.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:19 PM
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Has anyone ridden the 18 300 vs the 18 250? Torn on which to look for.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:35 PM
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Has anyone ridden the 18 300 vs the 18 250? Torn on which to look for.
I have. Test rode the magazine bike for Trailrider. And now own a GP250. I was riding a '12 300 last year.

Both 18's are brilliant in their own right.
Obviously its essentially the same bike with different motor charactaristics

I chose the 250 because I wanted a bike that would challenge me to stay in the powerband a little more, and one that would force me to learn to master the clutch. Both of those things were very noticeable right away with the 250. I'm very very glad I chose the smaller motor. Its already teaching me to be a better technical rider with my controls.

Is there any specific thing you are looking for out of the bike?
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I have. Test rode the magazine bike for Trailrider. And now own a GP250. I was riding a '12 300 last year.

Both 18's are brilliant in their own right.
Obviously its essentially the same bike with different motor charactaristics

I chose the 250 because I wanted a bike that would challenge me to stay in the powerband a little more, and one that would force me to learn to master the clutch. Both of those things were very noticeable right away with the 250. I'm very very glad I chose the smaller motor. Its already teaching me to be a better technical rider with my controls.

Is there any specific thing you are looking for out of the bike?
I'm a past GG owner. Had an 11 250 Six Days, and a 12 300. Right now I'm riding a YZ250X which has been a good bike with superb suspension once factory connection dialed it in. Just looking to change things up and was looking at an 18 XC300. Did the 300 lack top end compared to the 250? Any more vibes out of the 300 vs the 250?
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:31 PM
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I'm a past GG owner. Had an 11 250 Six Days, and a 12 300. Right now I'm riding a YZ250X which has been a good bike with superb suspension once factory connection dialed it in. Just looking to change things up and was looking at an 18 XC300. Did the 300 lack top end compared to the 250? Any more vibes out of the 300 vs the 250?
Hmm. I've gotta think back about 6 months to what I remember of the test ride... I gotta great memory, it's just really short.

The vibes on both bikes seem about the same. Which is to say they are nearly non-existent compared to the old GasGas bikes.

The testbike I rode was an EC300. Which should sign off just a little earlier than the XC300 IIRC. It felt electric through the powerband. What I mean by that is that it was very consistent. No arm ripping powerband, just constant power all the way to the top. I did not find that it lacked top end, but obviously has the bottom end that the 250 lacks without "competent" clutch control.

I found the 300 easier to ride in general, and easier to powerwheelie, but found the 250 faster, lighter feeling in singletrack, and easier to ride fast. Basically exactly what you would expect from each bike.

IMO the 300 is a better playbike, and better all-round dirtbike. But the 250 is a better racebike, and better enduro bike. If you just wanna go mess around with your buddies the 300 is the better choice, but unless you're good enough to get paid to race you'll be faster on the 250.
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I have a well set up 2011 250 with KYB suspension and a 18 250. In my opinion it's not even close. The 18 is light years better. I hate to say it but I like it more than my Beta 300 also.
AHA!!!! I knew that was you!!!! Yer from Ontario ain'tcha??
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