Manufacturer direct

[ScottyR]

Originally Posted by GAS GAS 360

Guys the GAS GAS 2 & 4 strokes have met all California CARB requirements and can be bought and sold here in CALIFORNIA it is the Enduro Importer who does not qualify to sell bikes here in CALIFORNIA lets tell it how it really is.

CARB has examined and passed our 2013 GAS GAS Race bikes and stickered them so lets all stop the BS.

TJ. I really get the impression from your posts that you have a somewhat hidden agenda to slander the current GG Dist. I am not the only one who has noticed this. Your posts always have a hint of anger towards GG Offroad US and the lack of support that they gave your "team".

I have spoken to Clay Stuckey about this and he says he cannot sell bikes in California as GG is not registered with the Cali DMV as a manufacturer. It is not a CARB issue.

Second, how can the current GG 4 stroke engine be certified by CARB? There are NONE of them in NA to test. Yamaha made it very clear to GG that no Yamaha powered GG Motorcycles were to be shipped to NA or GG would be in breach of their contract and would risk further engine purchases from Yamaha.

I think you need to get your facts straight before you get on here and spout this nonsense.

[Clay]

Originally Posted by twowheels

But how do you know what you want ...? Who's word do you trust?

Steve,
Didn't you sell a Beta to Glenn and this past weekend to a guy from east TN who traded in a GG to you? It seems that most of your customers are not local to you? Do you ship them or do they drive to your place?
Clay

[twowheels]

Originally Posted by Clay

Steve,
Didn't you sell a Beta to Glenn and this past weekend to a guy from east TN who traded in a GG to you? It seems that most of your customers are not local to you? Do you ship them or do they drive to your place?
Clay

A bit of both in those cases - I drove and met Glenn partway and delivered the '14 Beta at the shop, but I have also crated and shipped.

[desertgasser300]

Originally Posted by Clay

Steve,
Didn't you sell a Beta to Glenn and this past weekend to a guy from east TN who traded in a GG to you? It seems that most of your customers are not local to you? Do you ship them or do they drive to your place?
Clay

Shipped from 2006 miles away. Thing is with Steve is that I started out ordering small items from him. And was surprised when he hand delivered to me in AZ. Luckily he visits AZ every winter for job related purposes so I had the opportunity to meet him. Even had the chances to ride and break bread with him. Had him to my house for dinner, met my family. Would I have just ordered a bike from him if I had never got to know him? Chances are maybe not. (no offense) But we grew a trust between us and with Steve it was easy to do. He is very upfront and honest with everything he does. So when it came time to get a new bike my choice of dealers was easy. I knew him and I trusted him. Some, not all dealers take a personal interest in there customers. Those are the dealers I look for and promote. Even though he sells Beta now I don't hold that against him......LOL.

[STEVEV]

Getting back to the "direct from manufacturer" part of it. Wouldn't the manufacturer really being putting the screwing to the brands dealers if they decide to sell direct? I'm all for small business and supporting the dealers.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by twowheels

But how do you know what you want ...? Who's word do you trust?

The choices are pretty easy for me:

1. By Jap and convert to offroad?

2. Buy Euro, Husky, KTM, GG, Beta, TM, Sherco?

3. 2 stroke or 4 stroke? Easy for me, 2 stroke!

Bikes of today are SO good off the floor that I think it would be easy to make a choice without having a shop support in the same town / city.

The interweb provides instant information at your finger tips for you to read and also watch video's which we did not have back in the day. With so many forums on the interweb for each brand I think a person can make a sound choice on what he or she looking for. It is pretty easy to discount the "noob" remarks about a brand based upon research.

The interweb allows us to have a shop, parts counter person and MFR support almost 24/7/365.

[Wimpy525]

Would have to say buy from the dealer. I buy everything I can from my local dealer Matto Cycle. When I had problems I went to Bud he handled it. Although Clay is a stand up guy and will deal with you direct, not all importers will make themselves as availible to help you out. I have broken a lot of stuff this year back to back races and Matto's allways had what I needed or was able to get it in time for the next race. If you develope a relationship with the shop they will take care of you.

[Boom Boom]

Originally Posted by Wimpy525

Would have to say buy from the dealer. I buy everything I can from my local dealer Matto Cycle. When I had problems I went to Bud he handled it. Although Clay is a stand up guy and will deal with you direct, not all importers will make themselves as availible to help you out. I have broken a lot of stuff this year back to back races and Matto's allways had what I needed or was able to get it in time for the next race. If you develope a relationship with the shop they will take care of you.

+1 on what Wimpy said.
I have Matto to the east and Smiths to the west, never an issue with obtaining parts and most important "advise".
For me, Matto is closer but I had been working with Smiths before Matto became a Gas Gas dealer so I built a relationship with Smiths and continue to buy from them just for that reason.
Send and email and parts show up at my door a couple days later, just could not be easier and if I have an issue, a simple phone call always gets me straighten out.
Clay, I could see a benefit in shipping bikes direct as long as the local or chosen dealer gets a cut in the action.
Same with parts...

[nambo-trev]

Originally Posted by GAS GAS 360

Guys the GAS GAS 2 & 4 strokes have met all California CARB requirements and can be bought and sold here in CALIFORNIA it is the Enduro Importer who does not qualify to sell bikes here in CALIFORNIA lets tell it how it really is.

CARB has examined and passed our 2013 GAS GAS Race bikes and stickered them so lets all stop the BS.

I think you should read a lot of the previous threads on this topic. There was no BS involved at all, we got the story right from the horses mouth. I'm not american so I know I have no business with this but if you've spent anytime reading you'd know this topics has been beatin to death and questions have been answered openly and honestly from clay.

[Fred1956]

And, as I understand it, it is paperwork that the state of California requires to be filled out in person by the manufacturer (that requires fingerprints on California's paper).....However anyone in California can buy a GasGas from an out of state dealer. Just not able to set up dealers in the state... As Trev said it has been covered very openly & very honestly by Clay in person....