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Old 03-07-2017, 03:42 PM
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Default 2018 Gas Gas 250/300 Will Be 33 Pounds Lighter

Straight from the GasGas RD Guru, Miki Arpa, on Enduro 21, see page 77.:

https://issuu.com/enduro21.com/docs/...66372/45465200


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Old 03-07-2017, 08:52 PM
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It seems like they have a good team there!

I think the idea about partnering with an established engine manufacturer, and having those engines built to the requirement and specs that GasGas dictates; so long as it's NOT a Chinese manufacturer.

As for the new 2 strokes my thoughts are that I hope some of the very notable and positive characteristics of the current engines remain. Such as the tractor like torque, the ability to lug it way way down, and the well above average reliability.

I must say an XTrainer type bike from GasGas feels like the right direction. I hope they take it up. The Beta XTrainer has been referred to as a modern day KDX200. Those who are familiar with that bike and the legacy it earned will understand that is very high praise. I understand the company doesn't want a lot of new development costs, which is why they should consider the existing 250 engine in a more friendly state of tune, more entry level suspension, and running gear, etc. GasGas already knows they can beat Beta on price. Most of us are recreational riders and don't need an Erzberg capable bike, or the price tag those goes with it.

The future is genuinely bright at GasGas.
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Old 03-08-2017, 02:29 AM
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In the UK the x trainer is a serious hit, everyone loves them. That's got to be a target market for GG it sells so well.
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:35 AM
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They have never been exactly truthful about the bikes weight so I can't believe that it's going to be 15 kg lighter than the current bike. I think that they're dreaming.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:32 AM
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They have never been exactly truthful about the bikes weight so I can't believe that it's going to be 15 kg lighter than the current bike. I think that they're dreaming.


No brand has ever been accurate on weight.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:31 PM
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On Behalf of Torrot GasGas North America, want to apologize for Miki's "bold language" at times. I know Miki and he is a very, very passionate guy and sometimes speaks quickly. Also, there was some translation issues to the way we speak in the USA. While Miki spoke of the American market and where it stands, he was referring to the old owners of GG, not the current Torrot Group. I was with our CEO Ivan in Atlanta last week for meetings and can assure everyone, the US market is their target market and are doing all they can to help us make it happen.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:51 PM
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Thank you Mark for clarifying.

It's incredibly encouraging to see the direction GasGas is going and nothing wrong with passion! In many ways Europeans have us in the U.S. when it comes to passion for motorsports. I think we understand that GasGas is really pushing the U.S.market with the addition of so many dealers and you and Rod's tireless efforts here. Good things are happening and the future is very bright!
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