Guts tall soft seat foam?

[SpeedyManiac]

Hi guys,
I'm sick of the stock 07 seat. It's uncomfortable (I get monkey butt unless I grease up before riding) and a little too low for me. How's the Guts foam and cover?

[JRDoz]

I use a taller seat foam. Got it from these guys http://www.jdjetting.com.au/

Here's my seat after

[GMP]

Steve,

God damn I need seat help ASAP! This was the first time I had a big issue with the seat but it was bad! Had a late number on a sandy course and got spanked by it for miles, really hurt my time. I'm on the list for an '08 seat but if that doesn't come soon I have to do something else as well. I sat on a friends KTM with a tall soft EE seat and it was softer than my truck!

[MattR]

Originally Posted by GMP

I sat on a friends KTM with a tall soft EE seat and it was softer than my truck!

My old KTM had a EE tall soft seat and I absolutely loved it. The only thing I hate about my GG is this 2x4 seat. I have been debating about the Guts tall soft seat myself. I doubt it will be as comfortable as that EE seat... that was luxury.

I wonder if EE would make me a seat if I sent them my GG seat base???

[SpeedyManiac]

Originally Posted by MattR

My old KTM had a EE tall soft seat and I absolutely loved it. The only thing I hate about my GG is this 2x4 seat. I have been debating about the Guts tall soft seat myself. I doubt it will be as comfortable as that EE seat... that was luxury.

I wonder if EE would make me a seat if I sent them my GG seat base???

Tell them they'd get more than one order out of the deal! I'd be interested.

[MattR]

I took the initiative to contact Enduro Engineering. I emailed Alan Randt (owner of EE) inquiring about the GG seat opportunities. I'm interested in their tall soft setup. He said that I could ship my GG seat to him for review. He is not sure if their seat foam is adaptable but he is willing to try. The plan would be to reuse my seat base with their foam and seat cover.

The only downside for me is that I will be without a seat (and therefore a bike) until we figure this one out. However, I'm willing to make the effort for more products for us. I would like to know how many folks would purchase their seat. Depending upon the feedback, there may be leverage in case we run into stumbling blocks with fitment.

Wish us luck!

[GMP]

Matt,

Before you do that, try to compare a GUTS tall soft. The KTM seat is quite a bit different in shape. The GUTS tall softs I sat on on older GGs felt pretty good. I just wonder how the '08 seat compares, but I suspect the rounder edges make a difference.

[gasser]

I love the Guts tall soft on my 07ec250 and I sit down a lot more than I stand up. Sometimes we ride 4-5 hours and I really like this seat. - Ken

[JCW]

I ride KTMs most of the time and the seat is a big reason why. The EE soft seat is amazing and I don't leave home without one mounted up. EE sells the soft foam (only) as well as the full seat for the KTM. The complete seat is much softer than just buying the foam. Here's why. If you compare the seat bases, the KTM (as well as my GG) bases are built with the plastic raised up in the middle about 1-2", which cuts down on the amount of foam that can be used. On the full EE seat, their base is totally flat and that allows for an additional inch (or more) of foam, even on the regular height seat. In addition the EE seat foam is wider at the top where you sit.

I just ordered the Guts Racing Soft Foam for my GG and put it on last night. I haven't ridden it, but it is narrow at the top (bad) and does not feel as soft as the EE foam. It's better than stock, but no where close to the EE seat. We need to get about 200 GG owners to commit to a full seat unit if EE will build one. The keys to a seat that will equal the KTM version EE sells are:

1) a different base that is flat, allowing for thicker foam;
2) wider foam at the top of the seat where you sit.

IMO, until these two issues are dealt with, we'll all have sore rear ends after a hard day of riding.

[GMP]

The EE seat on the 200 XCW I sat on was very soft, perhaps too soft. Softer than an old Honda XR. I don't need a couch, but not a railroad tie either. Does the EE foam hold up? No matter what you start with, they all break in (break down) a little. My '03 GG seat was nice but after a couple months I could feel the base, I actually went to stiffer foam. The '08 GG seat is wider and more round.

If I can't get the '08 seat I may try the GUTS tall soft, but round off the top a bit. I don't need the height, so I'd sacrifice around a half inch for a more rounded profile.