Real bike weights?????????

[Stoby]

I've been riding an 01 300 for a couple years now .Recently picked up an 05 250 ,this bike feels a ton lighter than the 300 but specs say only a few lbs difference .I assume every year the bikes get slightly lighter but there just seems a tremendous difference,even at low speeds so it shouldnt be the 300s inertia.The 250 just seems like riding a 200.Anyone know the real world weights of the different models? I even put a big tank on the 250 and its still lighter feeling by alot.

[GMP]

'05 had a frame change that made them feel lighter in turning, thats the biggest difference I think. I know my '07 (same main frame as '05) is a leap ahead of my '03. Power will always make a bike want to go straight and feel heavier and 300s pull harder off the bottom than the 250s.. Weight wise maybe a few lbs. less mostly from the new motor castings and lighter wheels.

[Stoby]

Did they change the whole frame or just the subframe ?i have an extra subframe that was for the 05 .If it makes that big of a difference i'll change it

[noobi]

They changed the main frame in 05' to a steeper steering head angle, they only changed to a new subframe in 07'
So no, an 05' subframe on your 01 would not make it as nimble as your 05' 250.