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Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc. |
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Best mid to top end pipe?
I have been looking for a new pipe for my 2002 EC250. I would like a pipe that has the same bottom end but with more mid and up top power. I have heard the DEP and Doma are great for this. Any suggestions would be great!
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2002 Gasgas EC250 (gone not forgotten) 2012 Ktm 300xc 2001 Gasgas EC300 Lifes journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body, But rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting holy cow what a ride !!!! |
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i've got a Messico pipe on my 200. It had awesome top end with not bad low end with my old 13/50 sprocket combo. I've got 13/52 now and the top end is still good, but its different for sure. The Messico's look good, they might be a bit soft and easy to crush but i have a cage on mine and it hasnt copped any little dints at all.
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The newer OEM GG pipes are great IMO, perform similar to a Doma but heavy gauge like an FMF Gnarly. You should be able to fit one to your older bike with minimal tweaking.
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If you don't actually need a new pipe, you could get more top by adding
say a .5 mm base gasket and get appropriate head mods. You'd save a chunck of change too. SLP or RB carb wings. I had a lazy '92 KX250 that responded very well to a wing. It was the same in a gear for lower rpm's, but if I selected a mid rpm gear it behaved like a SX bike. I suddenly could leap off small trail objects to clear this and that. Whole new personality from mid to top. My fav is hotter CDI map. MC model CDI will deliver the goods. Better roll-on power under loads, ride a gear higher and way more top-end. If you ride on the pipe revs will come fast and hard, but performance is also better when lugging around as well. May find a used one in the classifieds forum. You can save time and $ just by going to this no brainer. Reason being, all trail models are detuned via CDI mapping. You'll get something between moto and enduro basically. |
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The RB Carb Mod gave a huge top end improvement FWIW.
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I am going to do the head mod and CDI after summer but i though if you use a smaller gasket you are covering up some of the ports as well so it would be counter productive?
Also, i need a new pipe because this one is fairly bent and dinged. Thanks for all the replys.
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2002 Gasgas EC250 (gone not forgotten) 2012 Ktm 300xc 2001 Gasgas EC300 Lifes journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body, But rather to skid in sideways totally worn out shouting holy cow what a ride !!!! |
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Send the pipe out to http://www.piperepair.com/ they have worked on my paper thin Messico a cople of times and I have been pleaed with the work.
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Rick 99 EC 200 06 RM 250 AMA D36 375X OTHG 375S ***Thanks for the support : Twin Air /O'Neil Racing / Race 100% / Matrix Concepts / ODI / Mika Metals |
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My 06 300 came with a GG pipe which was great. I bent it up and got a Messico to replace it which has the exact same part number as the original GG pipe. I found the Messico to be a little bit better on the top end...not sure why, they appear to be the exact same pipe.
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