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Old 12-18-2016, 07:46 PM
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250 before gear and I run .50 up front and a 6.4 on the rear. 2015 300


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Old 12-21-2016, 08:48 AM
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What springs would you recommend for FSE450 (WP43 forks)?
I'm around 100kg(220lbs) without gear.
0.49 or something even harder?
At the moment i have 5,4 at the back but considering changing it to 5,8.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:50 AM
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I found this and believe it to be fairly accurate.
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:49 PM
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If the above chart is for Beta RR's 2017

Wouldn't you go up one step due to the fact that GasGas 2017 is about 10 -15 lbs heavier?

Just wondering because I need to decide between .48 or .50 front and 5.8 or 6.0 rear. I'm 235# (108kg) no gear
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:20 AM
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I basically used the same chart when deciding on my springs and I run an older and heavier Gasser ('11 EC250R) than the newer ones. I run .38 up front (same as chart) and a 4.8 rear (one step heavier than chart) and weigh in at 140 with no gear. Feels perfect to me.
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Old 11-03-2018, 01:52 PM
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I found this and believe it to be fairly accurate.


The chart for the rear is not even in the ballpark for a heavier rider. I’m 260lbs and was running a 6.8 on my 15. On my 18’ I run a 6.9. Front seems fairly close though


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Old 11-03-2018, 04:41 PM
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My tuner and I have been in discussions with RaceTech about 2108 Gasser springs.

There is only one guy there (in the tech dept) that has dealt with the GG KYB issue. He has outfitted a few 2018 Gassers with springs and can advise you on spring rates. But he has to go with his personal application list. Ya can?t try to use the YZ shock chart because the leverage is different.

Sooooo... waiting for him to get back to work on Monday to figure out the part number, cuz nobody else has the knack.
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:29 PM
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back in the day on my 98 gg i used one 4.0 in one leg and a 4.2 in the other dont no if this will work on cc forks the other thing to consider is the ics spring on cc forks effects the spring rate
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:01 AM
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Im around 105kg (235lb) in the nip.

On my 2011 im running 5.8 on the rear and have to crank the preload to get close to 110sag, yet my mates 5.2 on his 2003 yields similar results! Going to pull the linkages and see if there is a difference.
SSS on the front with 0.44 springs are beating the life out of me (fast or slow speeds) no better than my 45mm marzocchis at the min for my use.

I think I need to go to 6.0/6.2 on the back to back off the preload and keep the head angle right so the forks work properly at the same time increasing the front to 0.48/0.5.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:32 PM
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Surely with all the differing suspension components on GG from year to year and also between models of the same year (sachs, WP, Marzocchi, reiger, kyb) this is all a bit superficial. And when you take into account the differing rider skill levels, type of terrain etc. it makes the pinch-of-salt even bigger.
I think there are a few key things that should be guiding your choice of spring. The first is obviously your sag (you can even do it for the front but a lot less accurately – rider sag should be about 33% of the total travel – but better to just see if you are using all of your available travel (without bottoming out where you shouldn’t) this can be done by putting a zip tie around your fork stanchion and seeing where it is sitting at the end of a ride)
The second thing is to work with a tuner – you can go with non-standard setup like soft valving and hard springs for example. If you are buying your springs from the tuner it may allow you the opportunity to try out different rates before settling on the final decision and paying for them – but worst case scenario is that they will be able to guide you to the best spring rate just based on the sag numbers (if your sag is out you may know which way to go – harder or softer – but not know by how much). I also believe that there is a need to change the valving to suit your springs.
The short of it all is that you are half way there just by being on this page. If you are considering changing your springs it means you are prepared to spend money on the most important part of your ride. I had spent a heck of a lot of money on my bikes suspension before I replaced any damaged plastics or stickers.
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