Marzocchi Shiver reassembly help needed.

[GMP]

I've removed many base valves with pneumatics, and only had one WP43 stack come loose(not off) from no loctite or stake. When I assemble my forks I clean all threads, blue loctite, and torque to spec. I reassemble, but wait until the next day for the loctite to cure before filling, as it renders the loctite useless. Never a problem. If it came loose from the pneumatic it was due to come loose anyway.

Since the '08 stack is likely a little different than what I know the '07 was, list all the shims you found and we can shuffle them into a reasonable stack for you.

[mcnut]

First, I'd like to say I certainly appreciate this forum and the great information shared by its participants. I have learned a lot since joining in August last year.

Originally Posted by GMP

If it came loose from the pneumatic it was due to come loose anyway.

You're just saying that to make me feel better. When I inspected everything the parts looked OK. So this morning I went out to the barn and measured what I have.

18 shims total
7 each, 22mm
1 each for the following sizes: 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, & 11.

[GMP]

Thickness also. I'll be offline until Mon night, but there are other guys here that can help you.

[mcnut]

Originally Posted by GMP

I'll be offline until Mon night, but there are other guys here that can help you.

I hope you're riding.

Here's the updated shim list:

22mm O.D. - .12mm thick, quantity 6
22mm O.D. - .31mm thick, qty. 1
21mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
20mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
19mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
18mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
17mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
16mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
15mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
14mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
13mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
12mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
11mm O.D. - .20mm thick, qty. 1

[stevethebrit]

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/sho...1&postcount=19

My spec sheet (stock shims) reads like this:
Check valve:
0,2*11mm
0,3*22mm
compression:
0,1*22mm
0,2*11mm
0,1*20mm
0,1*19mm
0,1*11mm
0,1*18mm
0,1*17mm
0,15*16mm
0,2*14mm
0,2*12mm

Didn't do the work myself, though, so I can't tell you more than the spec sheet the tuner gave me.
EDIT: Mind you, that's only 12(!), and mine has no 15mm. Looks like you have a load of .22's more from the factory than my zokes did.

[mcnut]

I'm clueless.

[moto9]

Originally Posted by mcnut

I hope you're riding.

Here's the updated shim list:

22mm O.D. - .12mm thick, quantity 6
22mm O.D. - .31mm thick, qty. 1
21mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
20mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
19mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
18mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
17mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
16mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
15mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
14mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
13mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
12mm O.D. - .12mm thick, qty. 1
11mm O.D. - .20mm thick, qty. 1

Here's what I suggest for a start
22x12 (3)
15x12
21x12
19x12
17x12
16x12
14x12
13x12
12x12
11x20

The problem is not just with the BV, the rebound is valved too soft, spring rate is too soft and the mid valve needs adjusting...and that's just the forks.
The shock needs work too because you want the bike balanced front and rear.
That's why it's best to get an expert to get your suspension set up correctly.

[mcnut]

I'm not looking for custom valving. I need to know the original stack. I'm waiting for an answer from Marzocchi customer service. If/when I get an answer, I'll post it.

[darren]

I think i have the base valve shim stack for 07 shivers off a ec250 if that will help

[stevethebrit]

Darren: I linked to your stack in my post, it was very similar to what I have written down for my 08 shivers. Problem is that it doesn't work with the shims that Mcnut got out of the fork.