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Old 02-08-2009, 10:31 AM
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Default Small bike and ATV ban.

I don't know if anybody is up to speed on this issue but the CPSC has banned the sale of any bikes or ATVs primarily intended for use by children 12 and under by Feb 10th, 2009. Dealers cannot sell bikes or repair parts for any of the affected models. My understanding speaking to the Honda dealers is the CRF 50/70/80 is affected. Yamaha dealers told me all TTRs 125 and under plus anything else of small displacement are on the list

The owners of ThumperTalk have a petition to the CPSC. Please look into this issue. The repercussions aren't good.

Letters, phone calls and emails to our various representatives and to the CPSC are in order.

Thanks, Bill.

Note: Admin, if you could sticky this or create a new thread addressing this issue, it would be greatly appreciated. I'm still dumbfounded at the sheer stupidity of our governmental officials.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:01 AM
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Is there a particular reason they are doing this? Too many injuries or something? Because if so then pit bike companys could also be affected.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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Is there a particular reason they are doing this? Too many injuries or something? Because if so then pit bike companys could also be affected.
This is strictly an issue over lead. As of next Tuesday no children's product can be sold unless it's certified lead free. It applies to virtually everything. It's so outlandish even public libraries have been told to either remove all children's books or forbid those 12 and under to enter the premises. Even thrift stores are having to pull all used items from their store shelves for kids or face a $100,000 fine for EACH item.



EDIT: They might have backed off slightly on thrift stores. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09086.html
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Some confusion here - it relates to products that contain lead - which some motorcycles and their associated parts contain.

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28january09_salesban.htm

Because of the confusion - the CPSC has delayed the implementation of the rule for a year to 2010.

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Old 02-08-2009, 11:56 AM
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Some confusion here - it relates to products that contain lead - which some motorcycles and their associated parts contain.

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28january09_salesban.htm

Because of the confusion - the CPSC has delayed the implementation of the rule for a year to 2010.

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It's very unclear. The rules flat out state you cannot sell products without the certification. The interpretation by Honda's lawyers means every single part must be tested and labeled as being lead free. This even applies to nuts, bolts, cables, levers, plastic and even so far as to internal parts that the average consumer has no access to.

Maybe Honda is being too conservative but would you trust the government to not go after you and hit you with the biggest fines they could for additional revenue?
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Bikes with batteries can be included also.

I grew up around lead, heck, we even used to play with mercury.....sure was pretty rolling around in your palm.
I think I'm OK.
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Bikes with batteries can be included also.

I grew up around lead, heck, we even used to play with mercury.....sure was pretty rolling around in your palm.
I think I'm OK.
did the same thing with mercury.... we are fine here in texas !!!
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Come on Lawn Darts were by far the worst toy that could be given to a child. Those things could kill you without much problem. Now the lead based paints and what not I can not really see. Mostly any lead based paints used on motorcycles would only come from china. Not Japan.
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wow that is as stupid as the tariff idea...
sounds like a ploy to increase scooter sales(for motors and parts lol)
i played in a puddle of mercury when i was a kid, it seeped up form an old mineshaft and contaminated the whole neighborhood. it cant be that bad, look at how i turned out, oh wait, thats a terrible example!
when i was 7 my xmas gift was a suction cup crossbow. i immediately broke the cocking mechanism, and proceded to shoot myself right in the eye trying to load it like an idiot. but i didnt get lead poisoning no sir!
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You can bet that a bunch of lawyers lobbied and paid off some corrupt bureucrats or whoever to get this one rolling.This small example speaks volumes about whats wrong with the system.
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