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[bigtoe]

will gas gas please build a bike like Beta xtrainer !

[Fred1956]

Originally Posted by bigtoe

will gas gas please build a bike like Beta xtrainer !

I think they already do....but not sure it's ever coming to the US. The Cami has a nice price point but isn't the typical race bike. What engine is in the Xtrainer?

[Jacob 'Berg]

Originally Posted by Fred1956

I think they already do....but not sure it's ever coming to the US. The Cami has a nice price point but isn't the typical race bike. What engine is in the Xtrainer?

300 two-stroke.

[PEB]

I have an 07 shock on an 05 frame, I haven't measured it but the seat height is stupid low.

[Elvis74]

They did years ago, named Pampera!

[desertgasser300]

Why build a de-tuned 300cc, why not just put in a 200cc? I ran into some Beta racers/dealer from Nevada at this weekends GP. They are having a hard time selling Betas in the desert, despite the rave reviews. They are nice bikes, but still as rare as jack-a-lopes here in the desert!

[Jacob 'Berg]

Originally Posted by desertgasser300

Why build a de-tuned 300cc, why not just put in a 200cc? I ran into some Beta racers/dealer from Nevada at this weekends GP. They are having a hard time selling Betas in the desert, despite the rave reviews. They are nice bikes, but still as rare as jack-a-lopes here in the desert!

I believe it is the same principle as the KTM Freeride 250 two stroke. Keep the larger displacement for torque and tune motor to make trials like power. The KTM Freeride eliminated the power valve all together, so that you get the trials like power but no top end or over-rev. Not sure if Beta ditched the power valve on the 300.

You need to come ride Bradshaws or MM with us some weekend!

[desertgasser300]

Originally Posted by Jacob 'Berg

I believe it is the same principle as the KTM Freeride 250 two stroke. Keep the larger displacement for torque and tune motor to make trials like power. The KTM Freeride eliminated the power valve all together, so that you get the trials like power but no top end or over-rev. Not sure if Beta ditched the power valve on the 300.

You need to come ride Bradshaws or MM with us some weekend!

I think Beta kept the adjustable power valve and the de-tuning comes from a small 125ish looking pipe. Possibly other de-tunings that are not visible.

Was up in the Bradshaws last thursday. You gotta come down here and ride the single track, I can guarantee we will be the only people riding it! 20+ miles of technical virgin trail. Doug came and rode it last spring.

[gasgasman]

Not quite the same as the X Trainer. But, GasGas brought back the "Contact" name as a multi use bike.

[bigtoe]

I have a ec300 and love it but I'm 54 years old now and don't have the need for the power band hit, but I like the torque of a 300 and the beta xtrainer has low seat height, only weighs 98 kgs ! the ktm freeride 250r 92 kgs, the cami 117 kgs , the pampera 120 kgs, come on gas gas you know you want to build one !