My experience with the Paleo Diet

[arminhammer]

Originally Posted by AZRickD

Google "protein per day" and you will find estimates of .5 to .7 grams of protein per kilo of body weight. That's just several ounces of meat per day.

16 oz of top sirloin = 843 calories which includes protein and fat. Another 700 calories in veggies and starch and you are good for the day.

Sorry but first off if you are counting calories you need to be read some info from Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson and many others.
I'm sure it's working for you but I hope the weight you are losing is not muscle.
If you want to talk calories, 1500 is way too low.
Please do more research. You will have much better results.

[desertgasser300]

Originally Posted by arminhammer

Sorry but first off if you are counting calories you need to be read some info from Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson and many others.
I'm sure it's working for you but I hope the weight you are losing is not muscle.
If you want to talk calories, 1500 is way too low.
Please do more research. You will have much better results.

Oh' man here we go!

I've read some of the research papers Rick has written.......not me who's gonna go toe-to-toe with him. Just sayin?

[Jakobi]

It can all get very scientific about what to eat, how to gain mass, how to cut weight and lean up while minimizing muscle loss. Go jump on a body building forum and have a look. Body building is too ego centric and too much of a full time job for me to have any interest in it.

The maths is simple though. If you want to lose weight its as simple as calories in being less than calories burnt. The opposite is true if you want to gain weight. Muscle is built by using them and causing them to react and adapt to being used.

I don't think that is the point of this thread though. This isn't so much about losing weight, retaining muscle, buffing up etc, but more about improving health and lifestyle, which is exactly what I aim to achieve in life. Its about applying some common sense to eating. Knowing what you can eat a lot of, and what to have in moderation. While I'd never go full paleo as I love to have breads, pastas, noodles, rices, etc, they are never the bulk element of a meal. I also shy away from most processed/premade meals and will cook from scratch where possible. A typical meal includes some meat (fish, chicken, beef, pork or lamb). A large side of salad or veg (usually just dressed with some olive oil and salt/vingearette - home made), and then depending on what it is it may have some carbs. Say a stirfry is all veg, some meat and a small amount of rice or noodles just to soak the flavours up. Lunch will be a large salad roll. The roll is just to hold the meat and salad together for me.

Softdrink and alcohol. That big ol polar bear!! Thats where my good work comes undone more than anywhere else. That and beers. If I could cut them out I'd probably weigh 10kg less. But meh.. I'm happy!

[desertgasser300]

Originally Posted by Jakobi

It can all get very scientific about what to eat, how to gain mass, how to cut weight and lean up while minimizing muscle loss. Go jump on a body building forum and have a look. Body building is too ego centric and too much of a full time job for me to have any interest in it.

The maths is simple though. If you want to lose weight its as simple as calories in being less than calories burnt. The opposite is true if you want to gain weight. Muscle is built by using them and causing them to react and adapt to being used.

I don't think that is the point of this thread though. This isn't so much about losing weight, retaining muscle, buffing up etc, but more about improving health and lifestyle, which is exactly what I aim to achieve in life. Its about applying some common sense to eating. Knowing what you can eat a lot of, and what to have in moderation. While I'd never go full paleo as I love to have breads, pastas, noodles, rices, etc, they are never the bulk element of a meal. I also shy away from most processed/premade meals and will cook from scratch where possible. A typical meal includes some meat (fish, chicken, beef, pork or lamb). A large side of salad or veg (usually just dressed with some olive oil and salt/vingearette - home made), and then depending on what it is it may have some carbs. Say a stirfry is all veg, some meat and a small amount of rice or noodles just to soak the flavours up. Lunch will be a large salad roll. The roll is just to hold the meat and salad together for me.

Softdrink and alcohol. That big ol polar bear!! Thats where my good work comes undone more than anywhere else. That and beers. If I could cut them out I'd probably weigh 10kg less. But meh.. I'm happy!

Ditto,

I was a hardcore crossfitter for years. Even went as far as getting my crossfit level 2 cert. I was crossfitting in between sports. I have competed in everything from BMX as a kid to professional/sponsored climber to sponsored luge competitor, now to enduro rider/racer. I still use elements of crossfit in my workouts, but not much use for it in our line of sport. During all that time competing I found the only thing that makes you better at your sport is doing your sport, eating right and doing cardio in your off days.

It's easy to pick up bad habits as an adult. You get a consistent job a wife and then some kids, east to get distracted.

[StuJohnson]

Just an FYI....
My wife and I recently watched this movie.
Fat Sick and Nearly Dead
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com
We purchased ourselves a juicer and after 2 weeks my energy level has increased tremendously.

And since this guy is from AU I am sure Jakobi will have some great comments about the guy..... ;-)

[AZRickD]

Oopsy. Looks like Rick needs some peer review.

I was doing some clever cutting and pasting in my iPhone and left out something that should have read, "1,700" calories, not "700" calories.

Sooo, I would add another 1,000 (for the mythical 180 pound male). These extra calories would mostly come from veggies, and starch (and possibly more fat if the cuts of meat are very lean). I usually go with a well-marbled ribeye or oily fish.

Lastly, 16 ounces of beef (128 grams of protein) provides way more protein than the typical male needs and is closer to what a top athlete would require (or a growing child or someone trying to build muscle mass).

[Jakobi]

Originally Posted by WA.GG

And since this guy is from AU I am sure Jakobi will have some great comments about the guy..... ;-)

First I've heard of it however I just watched the shorts.

Juice is just a really quick and easy way to smash down a large serving of fruit/vegies, and we all know they are good for you. As for liquid diets (juice fast/shakes/etc) I'm not a fan. I like to eat and I like to sit down and enjoy the smells, flavours, and textures. I enjoy cooking as much as I enjoy eating too. So personally blending a heap of yummy stuff up into a pulp and gulping it down doesn't do a whole lot for me and isn't what I would call sustainable regime. As a suppliment or addition to an already balanced diet. FOR SURE! Especially if you struggle to intake enough fresh fruit and veg.

Its truly amazing just how well the human body adapts and copes with whatever you do to it. The bigger battles are those that are psychological. Basically I never tell myself I can/can't eat anything. I eat what I want when I want. I know what happens when I eat too much junk, so its easy to control. Whats harder to control is the serving size the missus puts on the plate! Lucky we share the cooking. Hahah!

[AZRickD]

Yeah, it has to be enjoyable -- makes it easier giving up cupcakes at work.

"Um, nice cupcakes, but I have a hunk of ribeye to warm up..."

I'm out the door in a few minutes to head to my club's Competition Committee meeting. I googled Bennigans wondering what the heck kind of bar food they had in store for me. Turns out they make a nice, "pan-fried steak salad."

I'll go for that. Probably some beer, too.

[tm_enduro]

In all honesty, once you adjust to eating whole foods (as opposed to processed), you will enjoy your meals more and will have less cravings. Anything premade tastes salty, sweet, or greasy.