'10 EC 300 suspension observations at 20 hours

[Bailey28]

Hey guys I am just over 20 hours on my 10 300 with the Sachs/Sachs setup.

I started fiddling with the clickers a bit as the bike seemed to change in handling from when it was new. I feel the bike has gotten smoother but softer as well.

First, I ride a mixture of woods, with roots, rocks etc, hardpacked motocross, sand whoops, rock gardens, and pavement. I ask my bike to do it all.

I'll start with the fork: I kept the compression at 10 clicks out as standard, and played with the rebound a little, going from 7 out back to 9 clicks out as standard. The forks are at the 1st line on the upper triple clamp. I did not open them up. The forks seem to handle well on just about everything, with the only complaint being a quick hit at speed, they seem a tad harsh but they don't deflect.

The rear is what is a little concerning to me. The stock specs are 25 clicks out on rebound of 40 total. I counted only 31 clicks total. At 25, the rear feels good over choppy stuff but swaps like a mo fo over most jump faces, causing an unwanted whip. My buddies thought I was 'stylin on purpose.

If I turn in the rebound more, the bike tracks very straight however it slows down overall bike "turn in" at the start of cornering or directional changes. I have my sag set at 40 free/ 125 race sag. I tried the sag at 30/110mm but it seemed to make the bike jittery and nervous, it kept wanting to cut inside at mid corner and tuck so I went back to 125mm. My dealer Kirt recommened the 125 number also. I am 185 lbs in street clothing.

I went in one click on the high speed compression on the rear for 1 1/4 turns out from full in, and my low speed is set at 4 clicks out from full in. I was surprised that the low speed has only 8 clicks, the high speed had 20 total for 5 full turns.

I found that after riding a sand track the other week that I had ended up with the rear rebound all the way in at 0 clicks. That worked well in the sand but the bike required lots of effort to initiate a turn. Totally un-GasGas like.

Tonight after reinstalling my stock bars, I reset the rear rebound to 9 out like the front. Anyone have a '10 300 with the Sachs, and care to list what your clickers are?

Again all in one spot:
Front comp: 10 out
Front reb: 9 out

Rear LS comp: 4 out
Rear HS comp: 1 1/4 out (5 clicks)
Rear rebound: 9 out
Rear preload: 40/125mm

[Bailey28]

Update:

Rear sag at 108mm
Rear rebound 25 (stock)
compression 6
HS compression 6 clicks = (1 1/2 turns out)

Front compression 10
Front rebound 11
Forks at 2nd line

Now we can corner!

[gg3]

Rear sag at 108mm 100mm/27mm sagRear rebound 25 (stock)20compression 6 6HS compression 6 clicks = (1 1/2 turns out) 22

Front compression 10 12Front rebound 11 9Forks at 2nd line top

Haven't spent much time getting it dialled in properly.I think my sag settings are right.
I've got 26 clicks on the shock rebound?I better count again.

[gg3]

Sorry,added mine in blue & messed up the format.

[Bailey28]

Thanks for adding your settings. I am stock on my clickers. If I go in on the sag tighter, less than 108-110-30 free, the bike gets squirrley.

I know on a jap bike with a linkage, 100mm is the preferred. GG3, what do you weigh?

[gg3]

97kg-213lb

[john01]

I weigh right at 200 lbs and have had my front all over the place trying to find a soft smooth spot for the small stuff and a smoother mid stroke. I can't find either LOL. The front isn't as harsh as it was when new but it still feels stiff and doesn't seem to use much of the stroke at all. Any suggestions before I go TTX or send them out to Les at LTR?

[GMP]

Why would anyone spend thousands on TTX stuff before simply revalving the Sachs to suit their needs? Its not magic and has to be valved to suit you anyway. I wish I was half as fast as the limits of the stock components with proper setup.

[GasGasDreamer]

Originally Posted by Bailey28

Rear sag at 108mm

whats the preload at?

[jeffs2200]

Originally Posted by GMP

Why would anyone spend thousands on TTX stuff before simply revalving the Sachs to suit their needs? Its not magic and has to be valved to suit you anyway. I wish I was half as fast as the limits of the stock components with proper setup.

I had my Sach revalved and they worked pretty good. I then got a set of 48mm wp forks with the TTX inserts from a friend for a steal. The difference in the stock TTX and the reworked Sachs was huge. After I had the TTX revalved they are even better.