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Old 11-09-2017, 07:10 AM
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I would disagree with a clutch not being needed. For any kind of technical riding I would say that a clutch is a necessity. It simply adds a level of control independent of throttle position. I'm talking more trials like techniques here, which probably falls outside the scope of the market at this stage too.
Marc Colomer agrees with you, Jacobi

The electric trials bike he used in the TrialE cup has both a gearbox and a clutch.


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Old 11-09-2017, 07:46 AM
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I would disagree with a clutch not being needed. For any kind of technical riding I would say that a clutch is a necessity. It simply adds a level of control independent of throttle position. I'm talking more trials like techniques here, which probably falls outside the scope of the market at this stage too.


Admitedly I have approximately zero trials experience.

However I have ridden the Alta and you can stop forward motion bu just stop turning the trottle. Its a little weird and would take some getting used to. Especially for someone used to using a clutch.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:07 PM
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Trials techniques are still well applied in technical enduro. Things like double blipping a log, or punching up a steep embankment. A lot of times you don't want to cut drive as that causes momentum to be lost and the front end to drop back down if it's against something grippy, but at the same time you don't want to be on the power either as that firms up the rear suspension due to the chain pulling and can also lose traction in rough, choppy, or slippery conditions.
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Trials techniques are still well applied in technical enduro. Things like double blipping a log, or punching up a steep embankment. A lot of times you don't want to cut drive as that causes momentum to be lost and the front end to drop back down if it's against something grippy, but at the same time you don't want to be on the power either as that firms up the rear suspension due to the chain pulling and can also lose traction in rough, choppy, or slippery conditions.


Fair enough.

I obviously am still working on technique.
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Anyone who has used a Rekluse in the tricky stuff will agree that a clutch is useful. I had my old Rekluse fitted Bike flip over my head and land on its wheels behind me because the front came up and my throttle hand slipped and whoosh!
With a clutch I would have cut power to the wheel as soon as the front started to lift

As Chris Birch instructed you need to ride with your guns out all the time (a finger on the clutch and a finger on the brake)
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...still working on technique.
we all are! I'm no gun rider by any means

From the review it sounds like a good ol fun twist the throttle and hold on bike!
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:46 AM
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It is a fun bike. Definitely geared more to mx.
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Thanks for posting! I think you and the guy on the dual sport ripped past me when I parked at the bottom of a hill on a 2018 gasser. I cut the motor off on the gasser and watched you guys rip it up the hill, completely devoid of engine noise, which was very strange and kinda spooky.
I remember that!
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It is a fun bike. Definitely geared more to mx.
Yeah it's fine for MX, but I agree on the need for a clutch anywhere else. Next bike I want to test is the elec trials with a clutch, I could have fun on that even in my little yard.
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I remember that!
Yea that was cool, didn't I see you ride some of the gasser trials bikes too?
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