Auto clutch Install, Rekluse or S3 Clutch Basket?

[Moto7man]

I received my new Relkuse Basket with the larger 46mm hole. Everything bolted up nice without any problems.I will post some photos later. But, I can't bleed the adjustible Rekluse Slave Cylinder. I followed the steps in their video and I read the threads on this forum. I backed out the allen bolt on the slave cyl until the rubber gasket showed, then I filled the cyl with fluid and screwed the cylinder back in while watching for air bubbles and keeping the cylinder filled with Magura "Blood" fluid. Then, I backed the allen screw back out until the rubber gasket showed again. Then I slowly pressed the piston back into the assembly while keeping the fluid level and watching for air bubbles.

Then I mounted the Rekluse Slave Cylinder using the the two Rekluse washers, and banjo bolt and the oem mounting bolts. Here is the problem. I took off the master cylinder cover, fitted a clear hose on the banjo bolt and pumped the lever as I slowly opened the banjo bolt but no fluid flowed into the hose, I continued to open the banjo bolt but no fluid flowed into the hose. As I continued to open the bolt some fluid finally passed under the lower banjo washer but no fluid passed into the hose.

I tried back bleeding the system with a syringe but still same problem, no fluid passes into the hose. Following the threads here I removed the brake lever so the master cylinder plunger could move outward to push fluid into the line but this didn't help, same problem.Finally following another thread I removed the pressure plate and attempted to bleed the system again. Same problem, no fluid will flow into the line. Is is possible that there is something wrong with the Rekluse banjo bolt?

[StuJohnson]

everything you did sounds right.
But you mention Rekluse banjo bolt. Mine did not come with that. I used the OEM one.

Question...when you are bleeding you are not loosening the actual banjo bolt are you?
You want that sucker very tight and only losen the bleed nipple on top of the banjo bolt....

[GMP]

Most problems like this are from the master cyl piston being in the wrong position and blocking the holes to the reservoir. Back bleeding is the only way to really get it free of air. If you remove the banjo at the master cyl temporarily, and force fluid through the fitting (loosened of course) on the slave with a syringe, does it flow freely up and out? if not there is some restriction in the Rekluse slave. Remove and examine the fitting and bore for clues. When you reinstall the fitting, use Teflon tape on the threads. This keeps air out and fluid in when the fitting is loose.


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[rgranger]

Are you doing the initial bleed with the springs on? I had to back mine up to get the thing to pump up, then put the springs on and adjust.

[StuJohnson]

http://www.rekluse.com/product_docs.php

Glenn - I totally agree with you on the back bleeding but in this case with the Rekluse adjustable slave cylinder I did not need to do so.

I followed their instructions to a T...

[StuJohnson]

Originally Posted by rgranger

Are you doing the initial bleed with the springs on? I had to back mine up to get the thing to pump up, then put the springs on and adjust.

Are you saying that you removed the outer 6 Rekluse pressure plate springs in order to bleed the adjustable slave cylinder???

[GMP]

FWIW, I bleed the slave off the motor with the piston compressed. That way there is minimun volume of air to displace with oil. What is so different about the Rekluse part? Isn't it just a conventional slave cyl with stop screw to limit piston return? Looks that way.

[StuJohnson]

Nothing special.
except it does not have a spring inside the cylinder to to keep it snug like the OEM one.

[Moto7man]

Ok here is the update. When I got home today I started from scratch. I bled the slave cylinder off the bike per the Rekluse instructions. After install, I was able to bleed the slave cylinder using the lever and back bleeding with fluid passing either way. Here is the problem, I can only get the clutch lever to firm up in the late 25% of travel right before the lever contacts the handlebar. I tried for over an hour to get the lever to firm up without success.

I'm kinda lost at this point. The problem seems to be with the slave cylinder piston.

[Moto7man]

BTW, I did not see a paper gasket on the oem slave only a rubber o ring. The Rekluse came with an oring. Does the original oem oring need to be put on the Rekluse? There doesn't appear to be a place for it.