Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Engine - 2 stroke

Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 02-27-2022, 12:59 PM
(F5)'s Avatar
(F5) (F5) is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington New Zealand
Posts: 2,071
Default

After making sure the crank is still true. Polish the bearing journals too.


__________________
'07 EC300 GG
'14 TXT250 GG
'? 496 CPI Cheetah RZ/RGV hybrid
'22 765 Street Triple RS
'21 XTrainer
'69 Stinger T125 Suzuki
'23 TRS 250RR (it's a Trials thing)
Reply With Quote


  #32  
Old 02-27-2022, 01:31 PM
Neil E. Neil E. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Gormley, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,424
Default

I'm sure you guys are right on the temperature. I'm just used to having the oven at 350*F for everything. How else do you know it's done unless it's smoking when you open the door? (I'm single)
__________________
2011 EC250E
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 03-10-2022, 11:36 AM
grachal grachal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 41
Default

So today I slapt it back together, and took the bike for a quick spin. Runs like it used to, but I have a bad feeling about the motor.
When driving I hear a slight whine. Comparable to what a lengthened timing chain would sound like.
At a standstill I can't hear it, and I can't tell where it comes from exactly.
Main bearings must be fine now. They are not loaded up or anything, crank spins super easy and freely.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 03-10-2022, 12:53 PM
Jacob 'Berg Jacob 'Berg is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 589
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by (F5) View Post
After making sure the crank is still true. Polish the bearing journals too.
+1 on checking the crank.

I would start looking for the root cause of the main bearing failures, rather than repeating the same steps and expecting a different result.

Here are some possible causes for main bearing failures:

Dirt 45.4%
Misassembly 12.8%
Misalignment 12.6%
Insufficient lubrication 11.4%
Overloading 8.1%
Corrosion 3.7%
Improper Journal Finish 3.2%
Other 2.8%
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 03-11-2022, 02:29 AM
grachal grachal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 41
Default

I did not have the possibility to properly check if the crank is still true with a gauge, but if it was not, you would expect it to slightly bind when turning it by hand in the assembled case, right? The journals were polished, as suggested.
Thank you for the possible main bearing failures. I guess I'll start looking at some exploded drawings, to confirm proper assembly
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 03-12-2022, 11:00 AM
grachal grachal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 41
Default

I did not find anything wrong and I do not feel like pulling the motor back apart. I'll just send it till she blows, lets see
DSC_002345.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 03-27-2022, 12:26 PM
grachal grachal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 41
Default

One more question. Bike ran fine the last 400 kilometers, but I noticed, that my coolant turned black. It looks like dissolved aluminium particles in there if i would need to guess. Any idea what this comes from? I have no water in the crankcase or in the oil. But the water level got slightly less, about 150ml since the rebuild. Maybe it burns the coolant due to a leaky head gasket and this again leads to carbon in the water
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 03-27-2022, 01:52 PM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

Could it be the plastic impeller gear ?
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 04-02-2022, 11:16 AM
grachal grachal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 41
Default

Thanks for your suggestion. I checked the impeller and it is good. Flushed the radiators and it showed that it was not as bad as it looked before. Clear water with some dark sediment in it.
Maybe some Oxidation residue from the radiators (cheap chinese ones) or the engine itself?
I refilled the system and i'll check again later.
But the next thing that concerns me is clutch rattle getting worse. The sound does not change when actuating the clutch and also no difference if its in gear or not.

All in all not a very pleasing experiece so far. Never had that amount of uncomfortable events with my KTM SX
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fork blown Upyourkiltbatman Enduro Suspension 14 01-19-2019 01:52 AM
Blown piston, Power valve Tommy Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 2 05-24-2016 09:46 AM
'13 EC300 Blown Transmission bkoz Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 7 04-22-2015 11:50 AM
head gasket blown out GasgasTom Enduro Engine 4 stroke (including EFI & Exhaust) 1 11-02-2012 01:50 PM
Blown head gasket Jakobi Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 5 08-07-2011 09:28 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org