Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Engine - 2 stroke

Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-17-2022, 07:54 AM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default Mysteries of the ER

Can anyone think of a reason why this 2003 DE300 would have these small shim washers in the transmission? They were all huddled together around the magnetic drain plug.

This reminds me of one of those shows where the ER Docs pull foreign objects from bodies.

The trans and clutch appeared to be in pretty good shape and the bikes trans and clutch worked well.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Mystery washers.jpg (125.7 KB, 41 views)


Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 02-17-2022, 09:15 AM
Moto7man Moto7man is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murfreesboro,Tennessee
Posts: 2,542
Default

Discolored Transmission Shims? No oil in transmission and it stated to come apart? Any metal debris or fragments?
__________________
2011 GG EC 300E, 1994 CR 250R, 1984 RM 250 E, 2022 Ranger 300

"If you stop eating donuts you will live 3 years longer. It's just 3 more years that you want a donut."
―Comedian Lewis Black

"I think best when I have a wrench in my hands." Soichiro Honda

"Dreams are messages from the deep."
-Unknown Sardaukar
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-17-2022, 09:44 AM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

These shims are very small ~ 1cm for trans gear shims. No other significant debris. Since we have owned it it has always had oil in it. The gears, shift forks and shift drum look fine.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-17-2022, 06:15 PM
gasgasman's Avatar
gasgasman gasgasman is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pearland Texas
Posts: 4,595
Default

The power valve governor has some similar looking shims. Check that.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-17-2022, 06:38 PM
SS109's Avatar
SS109 SS109 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 995
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gasgasman View Post
The power valve governor has some similar looking shims. Check that.
That's what I was thinking. I seem to recall some really small and thin washers in there.
__________________
WildAzzRacing YouTube channel
Trail Riders of Southern AZ club
AZ State Parks OHV Ambassador
'11 EC250R
'98 KDX220
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-17-2022, 10:41 PM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

I checked out the PV governor and it looked fine. Very strange.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-27-2022, 08:56 AM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

They were all originally 11mm O.D. and 8mm I.D. and 0.33mm thick. I did not see any signs of the power valve governor damage. While the PV governor shaft is 8mm the manual does not show any such washers.

I think these washers are foreign to the bike and the mystery is how they got there.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-27-2022, 01:39 PM
swazi_matt swazi_matt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: From Swaziland, Now Hamilton New Zealand the “look but don’t touch” enduro heaven
Posts: 2,336
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zman View Post
They were all originally 11mm O.D. and 8mm I.D. and 0.33mm thick. I did not see any signs of the power valve governor damage. While the PV governor shaft is 8mm the manual does not show any such washers.

I think these washers are foreign to the bike and the mystery is how they got there.
in the words of Hercule Poirot (or some other french detective) cherche la femme

maybe your wife wants you home more
__________________
2003 txt250 Pro
2013 Ossa 280i
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-27-2022, 02:44 PM
gasgasman's Avatar
gasgasman gasgasman is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pearland Texas
Posts: 4,595
Default

Shims or washers are usually captive on a shaft.
I don't see how some of them are still intact.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-27-2022, 04:30 PM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

When I split the cases they were all around the drain magnet. Some showed witness marks from playing with the trans gears but others were still in good shape.

I think I can safely rule out my wife as a suspect because this GG is my godson/nephew's bike. I did think that someone else wanted to do this bike harm, but the trans oil fill hole is just a little too small for these washers to fit through.

I think the shim washers have been in the engine since it was built unless it was rebuilt by the previous owner(s).
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org