What bike coming from a 2007 KTM 200 XC-W?

[onegreyghost]

I was a long time ktm fan (20 years) i always rode 125's and 200's. That was the tradition every year i purchased a new bike. Now my last 2night bikes have been gg. The gg handle so much better. The problem now is i cant seem 2 wanna sell either my 2010 or my 2011! They are really phenomenal bikes if i were u i would pick up a 250. I believe its a much better all around bike. I am sure Jakobi wouldnt mind helping you with the jetting. Anyway good luck with your choice and keep us posted on what you decide!

[Jakobi]

I was in the market for a 2012 200R myself this year, but due to delays in shipping and availability of the 200 to Australia I ended up converting my 2010 Race model from a 300 to a 250. I can tell you so far its been everything that I was looking for. The 300 was great too, but just had much more power than I could 'use' for most of my riding. It wasn't a beast or too much to handle.

[forgiven]

I am not being cheeky but why would you go from a 300 to a 250? I am always looking for more power down low...perhaps I am just a crappy rider and can't understand. I do however see a big following in the 250 over the 300.

TO ME...the 300 seems easier to ride sitting down or in lazy mode however when you want to get some you can get ALL of what you need just shift quicker than the 250.

Again I am not trying to be a smart guy I am just trying to understand what the advantage of the 250 over the 300...especially for the same weight.

[GasGas]

I just prefer the zippier motor of the 250 and the fact that it's a bit less tiring to ride at the end of a race or long day in the saddle.

[Diggs345]

Try riding a 500 two stroke on a moto x track and you will soon find out , you can actuall feel the energy draining from your body by the second lol
I have a 300 myself but i can see the reason to get a 250 , when you are tired you are more likely to make mistakes on the 300 and you should last longer on the smaller motor before you tire .
It has been said in the uk that the 200 is the smart mans choice , but im just greedy and wanted the extra torque

[Jakobi]

Originally Posted by forgiven

I am not being cheeky but why would you go from a 300 to a 250? I am always looking for more power down low...perhaps I am just a crappy rider and can't understand. I do however see a big following in the 250 over the 300.

TO ME...the 300 seems easier to ride sitting down or in lazy mode however when you want to get some you can get ALL of what you need just shift quicker than the 250.

Again I am not trying to be a smart guy I am just trying to understand what the advantage of the 250 over the 300...especially for the same weight.

Its a legitimate question and I agree with what you are saying entirely. TO ME... the 300 is easier to ride sitting down and being lazy, it offers everything the 250 does just earlier in the rev range.

But.. I don't want to be lazy and I don't want to sit down. I don't want to change before the bike is screaming. I ride for the fun factor and the fun factor comes from pushing a bike towards its limits. I want to keep busy and feel like I'm really riding the bike. The 250 will still lug down as well as the 300 does as well. Its all purely based on riding style. Why would you buy a 300 with the extra power down low when the 250 does it all while feeling lighter, revving faster, and vibrating less, and making just as much power up top?

Have a look at the graph in this thread: http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12838
You can see the only real difference is that you need to carry a few more rpm for the same power output.

[Diggs345]

Originally Posted by Jakobi

Its a legitimate question and I agree with what you are saying entirely. TO ME... the 300 is easier to ride sitting down and being lazy, it offers everything the 250 does just earlier in the rev range.

But.. I don't want to be lazy and I don't want to sit down. I don't want to change before the bike is screaming. I ride for the fun factor and the fun factor comes from pushing a bike towards its limits. I want to keep busy and feel like I'm really riding the bike. The 250 will still lug down as well as the 300 does as well. Its all purely based on riding style. Why would you buy a 300 with the extra power down low when the 250 does it all while feeling lighter, revving faster, and vibrating less, and making just as much power up top?

Have a look at the graph in this thread: http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12838
You can see the only real difference is that you need to carry a few more rpm for the same power output.

Did you draw the ec 300 line in with a crayon

[firffighter]

For the type of riding you described, I would say the 200.

I have a EC250, had a DE300 and my son has a EC200.

If I were riding strickly singletrack and gnarly terrain, the 200 would be my first choice. The lighter feel and flickability along with tame useable power delivery make it a great bike for the tough stuff.

But, if you already have the KTM200 I am not sure making the switch to the Gasser 200 would yeild a huge difference. I owned 2 KTM 200's years ago and they feel even more flickable than the Gasser. The Gasser does feel more planted and has a smoother power delivery.

All of my gassers have been trouble free and are very reliable.

[Jakobi]

Originally Posted by Diggs345

Did you draw the ec 300 line in with a crayon

Haha yeah. In pink cause 300's are for girls.. I dodged the pink line in because I got sick of posting both the graphs for the 250 and 300s with varying gasket stacks.

[bowhunter007]

Originally Posted by forgiven

I am not being cheeky but why would you go from a 300 to a 250? I am always looking for more power down low...perhaps I am just a crappy rider and can't understand. I do however see a big following in the 250 over the 300.

TO ME...the 300 seems easier to ride sitting down or in lazy mode however when you want to get some you can get ALL of what you need just shift quicker than the 250.

Again I am not trying to be a smart guy I am just trying to understand what the advantage of the 250 over the 300...especially for the same weight.

I'm currently riding a 300. Now that son-in-law is back from overseas(i've had his ec250 for 6 months), we might trade bikes. My 300 is nicer, and has more upgrades, but I'm actually faster in the tight/twisties with the 250(...and have more fun).