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Old 04-29-2023, 08:04 PM
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My kickstarter stripped some teeth (2010 EC300) and now it is stuck on the shaft. I tried several gear pullers, no luck they slip loose, can't grab the back of the kickstarter. My other choice is the Dremel. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?
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Old 04-30-2023, 06:54 AM
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Drill or cut the knuckle from the outside to break it free from the shaft. A dremel tool small cutoff wheel should get in there pretty well.
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I dont remember what type of gear puller I used. But I had, and solved the same problem on my 2015. It was possibly the type where you press two plates together behind the bearing like the one in the photo

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Those gear pullers work well but there is not room to get it behind the kickstart lever because the case is in the way. Plus I would not want to put too much pressure on the aluminum case.
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Old 04-30-2023, 03:22 PM
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Z-man: thanks for the suggestion, the Dremel is the only way due to the space issue as you mentioned.
Anders: I'm still looking into bearing pullers but a small one is hard to find, thanks for the suggestion though.
The Dremel sounds easy but its not, the grooves on shaft are right underneath.
A touchy situation and the metal does not grind off easy. We tried to drill the knuckle, it laughed at our drill bits. This not an easy task.
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It is hardened steel so I would use the cobalt drill bits. These dremel blades should be able to cut it. https://www.amazon.com/Dremel-EZ406-...2887830&sr=8-5

You can cut it close to the shaft and then insert a flat blade screw driver to break it free. Even if you cut through and nick the shaft it will not be a big issue. You may find that the shaft is already damaged from the kickstarter teeth slipping.
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Thanks Z-man,
I have cut through part of it like you said, almost big enough for a screw driver. I will continue to cut tomorrow, took today off to think about it.
Cutting through as you described is the plan.
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I bought an Aliexpress YZ250 kickstarter after losing my genuine YZ starter. To my surprise it was fit for purpose.

Except it was anodised Blue.

A quick application of oven cleaning gel removed most and reapplication sorted it. Looks good bare several years on.

Genuine live in toolbox in case it goes awol. I made a stepped washer to press it on the shaft as it was loose with a flat washer. This might be where you were before it stripped and jammed.
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Old 05-01-2023, 04:18 PM
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How is the durability of that non-blue kickstart lever?
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As I said several years on it is fine.

What I can't guarantee is there are not multiple Chinese suppliers making the same thing, but it doesn't seem likely.

This sort of thing

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...d=d0iRWnp33hNz

Hold on, it was this one 3 years ago.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000...3c9f1802XDg4Sj
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