Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Suspension

Enduro Suspension Tuning & maintenance of Enduro forks, shocks, etc


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-14-2013, 12:31 PM
nifty nick nifty nick is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3
Default 2013 250 racing 48mm fork set up

hi, can anyone help. I am a good clubman rider aged 50 and ride mainly woods, fields. I find my 48mm marzocchi cc forks too firm. Yet the preload was set on zero when i collected the bike. Also the forks feel harsh over small bumps. I am based in the uk but would appreciate any feed backl as i know nothing about these forks. cheers


Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 04-14-2013, 04:53 PM
hamilton's Avatar
hamilton hamilton is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Elkton Md
Posts: 452
Default

I feel the same way about my 12 200. I suggest you read the users manual, there is a link to it in the suspension section its very good. first the forks take some time to break in, I use a o-ring on the lower fork leg to see how much travel is being used on small bumps and large. You need to be sure you have the correct springs for your weight. Try adjusting the compression and rebound settings, one adjustment at a time. That didn't help me much, everyone says to run the pfp setting all the way out, but I feel it works much better at 1.75-2 turns in. I had mine revalved for enduro but they still feel harsh to me, I am about one race away from mounting my husky 50mm forks on it. Best of luck, let me know if you find a good setting.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-14-2013, 06:17 PM
rxmx rxmx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: mid TN
Posts: 36
Default

I felt the same way about mine, until now I just put SKF seals and .40 springs and 5wt oil in inner and outer chambers. Mine feel great now, very happy. (I weigh 157# in street clothes)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-14-2013, 06:41 PM
hamilton's Avatar
hamilton hamilton is offline
Gold Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Elkton Md
Posts: 452
Default

Yeah, the SKF seals do help and I have the 40 springs, that's my next step were about the same weight.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-14-2013, 08:37 PM
GMP's Avatar
GMP GMP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jefferson Twp., NJ
Posts: 7,597
Default

First, don't judge until broken in. Put some seal grease under the wipers before riding the bike and get a few hrs on it. We did this today with my buddy's new '12 leftover. You have to remember that the PFP system starts out at 7mm preload, which is additive to the main spring preload of 5mm(stock). I personally like the feel of the fork better with a lot less main spring preload (1mm) and a stiffer spring. I 'm running .46kg/mm KYB springs and the fork feels firm but controlled and not abusive at all. I'm 176 lbs. Sounds stiff but it works, the light preload allows the fork to respond to the small stuff and the stiffer rate keeps the bike stable.

That said, the fork needs stiffer rebound valving, even with the stock springs. Sometimes inadequate rebound control can be misinterpreted as a compression problem.

This is an excellent fork when setup, in fact the best I have ridden yet.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-15-2013, 12:43 AM
nifty nick nifty nick is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3
Default 2013 250 racing 48mm fork set up

thanks guys, will get a few more hours on them. Didnt realise preload wound in still had some preload active. Someone at practise track had heard that the high speed valving is too slow in these forks. Niether of us know what this means.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-15-2013, 09:12 AM
GMP's Avatar
GMP GMP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jefferson Twp., NJ
Posts: 7,597
Default

I don't think thats true. The compression and midvalve valving is tame IMO. I would not be surprised if you are going deeper into the stroke than you should from a soft spring, and then the lack of rebound damping causes a vey fast initial return spike that feels like a compression spike. I ride a lot of rocks, all square edges and various speeds. I have no compression/deflection issues.

Assuming no one has been in the fork before I would:

Stiffer spring with 1-2mm preload
Remove bleed shims from compression, mid, and rebound stacks
Build a stiffer rebound stack
Proper cartridge fill and bleed
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-15-2013, 03:45 PM
nifty nick nifty nick is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3
Default

cheers Glen, the more i think about these cc the more i get confused. Spoke to an Ohlins technician who works near me . He has offered at a reasonable rate to try and set forks for me. But has no information on cartridge oil levels or how the cartridge works. I will mention your ideas. thanks
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-15-2013, 03:54 PM
Jakobi's Avatar
Jakobi Jakobi is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,994
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nifty nick View Post
cheers Glen, the more i think about these cc the more i get confused. Spoke to an Ohlins technician who works near me . He has offered at a reasonable rate to try and set forks for me. But has no information on cartridge oil levels or how the cartridge works. I will mention your ideas. thanks
Its very similar to a KYB SSS internally + the PFP. There are links to the service manual on the site. Have a search in the suspension subsection.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2013 300e racing. Ignition key bypass. Anyone? Malamute Enduro Electrical & Wiring 4 05-17-2013 09:21 PM
EC250/300 Racing 2013 with ?hlins fork Leon_gasgas General Discussions & Announcements 16 10-09-2012 09:45 AM
48mm Marzocchi fork tools GMP Enduro Suspension 23 03-31-2012 07:25 PM
Fork bleeders for 2010 48mm's forgiven Enduro Suspension 21 01-16-2012 08:51 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org