300 De Stator Output?

[Boomhauer]

Can somebody tell me what the output on my 04 300 DE Stator is?

I am wanting to run some better lighting equipment for some night riding.

Thanks,
Boom

[MattR]

The DE ignition (2k-2) puts out about 40W. The EC ignition (2k-3) puts out about 100W.

[mattmax]

A company called "Electrosport" makes and sells aftermarket electrical stuff. I just bought a 60w light coil/stator for $150. They sell there stuff under other names too. Mine was through Moose, but price was same. It will fit under the any flywheel,including the 10 oz.

[myosin]

Also, is the Gas Gas an AC/DC split or is it pure DC?

[GMP]

Its all AC like a 2-stroke KTM. The ECs have a crude rectifier to run the horn but thats it. You can float the ground in the stator and run a Trailtech rectifier/regulator for a clean 12 VDC.

[slocalspode]

2002 XC300 wiring question.
From the above post. To use the TrailTech Rectifier/Regulator
is it "required" to Float the ground to get the battery to charge?
I posted this over on Talkingsmack. Figure I'd (Copy/Paste) over here.
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Hi, have a GasGas 02XC300 wiring question someone here might be able to
help out with.
I am trying to install a battery and be able to charge it when the bike
is runing. I purchased a TrailTech Rectifier/Regulator and a Yuasa
1.2Ah battery, (NP1.2-12). Constructed a Carbon Fiber battery box.
See attached pictures, (if they show as my attachments.)
According to BajaDesigns there are a couple ways that the stator
could be wired. The stator could be grounded to the frame internally.
Or Could be grounded to the frame externally after passing through
the Rectifier. See .pdf file on BajaDesigns web site.

http://www.bajadesigns.com/2005%20We...0Universal.pdf

The .pdf file shows two yellow wires exiting the stator for the externally
grounded type that gets grounded after the Rectifier. The internally
Grounded stator only shows One Yellow wire exiting the stator.
This is how my GasGas looks. Just one Yellow wire to power the lighting
system. (See Pict).
There are Four wires to power the CDI. Red, Green, Red/White and
Black/Red.
I'll attach a pict of the Stator.
If this is an internally grounded stator. Should I follow the diagram that
shows one Yellow wire from the Rectifier connected to the single Yellow
wire from the stator and the other Yellow wire from the Rectifier being
grounded to the frame?
Then the Red wire from the Rectifier connected to the (+) side of the
battery and the Black wire from the Rectifier connected to the (-) side
of the battery? Then all negative connections from the lights need to
be grounded to the Battery (-) lead?
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thank you, Jeff Wallace, So. Cal.
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hmmm?? I uploaded the .jpg files and BajaDesigns URL, but don't
see them attached to this post.... I'll try again if they don't come
through.
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What I am trying to achieve is to be able to use my lights for
limited night time use. (Ie: getting back to camp if the ride time
estimate was a little off.) I don't plan to run HID lights or upgrade
the stock lighting at this time. I just don't like the problem of
loosing your headlight on a steep snotty down hill if the motor
stalls.
Thanks,

[GMP]

Thats the 2K-2 ignition that has only one AC output (yellow). The larger 2K-3 has two(yellow and white). Both are referenced to chassis ground in the stator. You need to float the AC ground in the stator and then ground the neg side of the rectifier (DC ground). I would look at the instructiuons on the Trailtech site for a KTM 250/300 as the ignition is basically the same electrically.

[slocalspode]

Thank you. I have reviewed as much web information as I can
find on floating the ground and installing a Rectifier. Unless I am
missing something. Nowhere does it state that you must float
the ground to use the TrailTech (or any) Rectifier/Regulator.
I would rather not have to remove and rewind my stator if I do
not have to. I am looking for a way to get the battery to charge
using the existing system. I just don't want to get it wrong and
fry something expensive.....like my GasGas.
If I read the information on the BajaDesigs web site correctly.
It appears that it is possible using the technique I described
in my first message. I guess I need to do some more studying.
Thanks, Jeff

[Dave]

slocalspode,

If the only dc item you want to run is a headlight then the bottom diagram (grounded ac) will work fine.

If you wanted dc to power blinkers, horn, instrument lights (ie, the EC wiring harness) then it would be less trouble to float the ac as shown in the upper diagram.

[slocalspode]

Well. I was hoping to run the entire EC wiring harness @ 12VDC and
be able to charge the battery when I did not need the lights. I have
the EC wiring harness I got from WideBear installed. Everything works,
Head Lights, signals, horn and brake lights. They dim at low RPM and
I was trying to be able to keep a steady voltage by adding a battery.
I don't (plan) on going HID anytime soon. I just wanted to keep it
simple (insert cheep) and easy.
I got an e-mail back from Support @ TrialTech. Kind of hard to read
between the lines, but, I think he said you could *not* use a TrailTech
or BajaDesigns style Rectifier/Regulator on a bike unless it has had the
"Floating Ground" modification performed to it.
Being an electrical nimrod has it's disadvantages sometimes. :^(
I know I am not the first person in the world to try what I want to
do. I just need to find the knowledge base. Or give up and spend
the $$$ on a modified stator...flywheel puller....flywheel holding tool...etc..
Thanks everyone. Jeff